Any word yet? Looking forward to seeing everyone again. Tim

Tim,
Was there any days in specific that were being mentioned? I would be interested in this one, since it is in my back yard.

I need a good excuse to get away even though I won't be drag racing (new clutch won't hold the new horsepower).
We shut down the end of October and will be shut down into the first week in December or so and that's only if everything goes right which they usually don't. Depending on what date you set is whether I can make this one or not. I'll be watching.

Is there still an interest, I know I am and others seem to be. Does any one remeber who set it up last time?

I just did a search on it and John_P and Papasmurf put it together.

I am interested, lets see if we can get Porterfield and crew to make it happen.

Thanks for the interest in the N.C. Dyno and Drag Race Event
fellas! I will contact Chris Dubie and see what we can put
together for later this year. We had it in December of last
year and it was a little cold, so maybe we could shoot for
early or mid November if that sounds good for everyone.
Check your schedules and get back to me. I will discuss
this with Chris (PapaSmurf) and some of last year
"sponsors" and get back to you guys.

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John_P

I'm interested in attending. I'll keep an eye on the thread. NC 18 needs to have another get together anyway. The last one was too long ago. :D

Hello
John and his son John and I and my son Geoffrey will be going out to the local drag strip ( Coastal Plains Dragway) tomarrow evening. John and I talked about putting another meet together and we will see if the CPD folks will support us.
I am thinking opening it up to anyone with a pickup can run. There was a ford f150 down in Commerce Ga. that ran a 14? mph in the 1/4 mile against the Jeff Garmon drag truck. Course it was on drugs. If we put a race together I am thinking it should be structured as follows.
I Diesel only, auto tranny
II Diesel only, stick shift tranny
III Gas only, auto tranny
IV Gas only, stick shift tranny
V RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG (is that a word) Run anything you want with four wheels.
John and I talked about the event, some of the above is just me thinking out loud on the computer.

The only rule that I think we need is the following.
If your not here to a have a good time and enjoy each others company than, don't bother to show up.

Please don't get the wrong idea we had a good time last year, I just don't want to get a bunch of attitude going this year.
Any thoughts on this please send them to John or I. PM them if you like.
Take care
See Ya
Chris

Chris has given a pretty good rundown on what we need
to do to have the event again. Wayne Murphy @ "Waynes
Dyno and Performance" in Jacksonville has graciously
agreed to run our trucks on his Dynojet again this year.
Thanks Wayne!;) He suggested the first Saturday in
December (the 4th) as a "target date." As we did last
year, we can do dyno runs on Saturday and then go
to the drag strip on Sunday provided that "Coastal
Plains Dragstrip" will work with us like they did last
year. I recently attended the N.C. Hemi Owners Group
get together (Dyno and Drag Race) and the dragstrip
required a deposit from them. Our contact from last year
(Gary) has left the track, so Chris and I will talk to the
management tomorrow night to see what they require.

A couple of members have e-mailed me asking that this
be a Dodge Truck Only Event. Whatever is decided upon
by all of you, I agree with Chris about breaking the trucks
down into classes similar to what Chris described or what
"Hammer" is going to do at the "Fall Brawl Event." This
would apply to the dyno event and the drag racing.

Give us your thoughts and input. We will get back to you
after we talk to the management at "Coastal Plains Dragway."

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John_P

Thanks guys if I can help let me know. Had a good time last year and I for one dont care if you want to allow the GM and Ford diesels to show up, the more the merry'er. John you get your 12v dynoed yet? Tim

Count me in. All brands are fine with me. I was surprised at the #'s the Duramax's put down last year.

We talked to the management at "Coastal Plains Dragway"
last night. They have had some personnel leave, namely,
the guy who helped us out last year, Gary. Their rules
and procedures have changed quite a bit since our event
last year. They said that as soon as the colder weather
starts (probably early November) they will change their
"test and tune" night from Thursdays to Sunday. IF the
temperatures don't get below 45 degrees the track would
be open like any other "test and tune" day and the admission
for racing would be $15.00 for each truck and $8.00 for any
spectator. However, if the temperature DOES get below 45
degrees they said they will probably close the track for the
winter. In that case, we would need to "rent" the track for
the day. Their fee for that is $300.00 for a half day and $400.00
for all day. "All day" is considered to be from 9 AM to 5 PM.
One advantage to this is we would have the track all to
ourselves like last year. Under this "rental" situation we
will need around fifteen (15) members to put in about
$25.00 each to rent this track for the one day. This would
keep the cost fairly low for the racers. This is what Tom
Wheeler from the N.C. Dodge Hemi Owners Association
(DTW) did about a month ago and it worked out well.
Johnner and I attended that event and had a great time.
I told Tom I would like to invite members of his group and
will post this on the dtw website.

So, in summary, we can go ahead and schedule the dyno
event and wait to see about the racetrack in which case if
they close for the winter we will be out of luck. Or we can
go ahead and schedule the event and will need around
fifteen FIRM commitments from anyone who wants to race.

Let me know what you think.

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John_P

You guys can count me in. Had a great time last year. Papa's a Grandpa? Is Leslie a momma now? I guess she's all growed up and haired over since I saw her. Congratulations!

David

Originally posted by John_P


"A couple of members have e-mailed me asking that this
be a Dodge Truck Only Event. ."

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John_P

If this is to be a DTR chapter event then it has to be open to any brand of vehicle. We do NOT discriminate against any brand vehicle, or individual.

Unless of course as John has already stated, Someone brings an attitude with them. It is all about having fun and being courteous to one another.

I hope I can make this event myself, I may cook us up some Brats if I can find a fire hat :D

i would hate to think they i couldnt attend the event i actually started just because i dont have a dodge:o

John and Chris D.
Let me know if you need a hand with anything, since I live down the road from Wayne's it would not be a bother to bring things along. I know I can't help with the grill, mine weighs about 250 lbs. But propane is no problem.

Hello again
I am thinking about bringing the goose neck trailer, It seems like my truck is happier when it's pulling something. I would bring the 5er but the corner at the end is to sharp and I would hate to throw everything outa the cabnets. I wonder what I could run on the dragway:D [eyecrazy] [laugh] That and if there are any breakdowns there would be a trailer on hand to tote off the caranage.
KingD
I am going to stay somewhat nice this year and not talk as much stuff. I hope to bring out a larger mix and I for one would like to see the big three well represented, as well as the import stuff.
The main effort will be to enjoy the day and have fun.

David
Yes I am a Grandpa. Leslie had a little girl Taylor Marie on the 9 of July. I don't know anything about haired over. Geoffrey and I are running up to Dover Del this weekend to see them.
Take care
Freedom ain't free
See Ya
Chris

We'll be working 80 hours a week from the 28'th of October to the end of November (SmurF knows what I look like during that period). Hoping to close out around the last of November so I will definately need a break if it is in December. I wouldn't race since I have the same problem I had last year. Too much HP for the clutch I have. But I would make it to see the folks again.

I hope to make this one:D :eek: :D

Joel:

I thought Keith was going to put in a heavier clutch for you?:confused:

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John_P

Hello to you all. I have looked at the calendar and Dec. 4th is the date.
I do want to make one thing clear. KingD is the one that contacted me first about the get together we had here last year and then John P and Chris D took it and made it bigger. Not taking any thing away from these 3 men but it was a group effort that made it such a big deal and I was proud to be part of it and hope we can make it bigger this year.
As for the different classes don't get to carried away. JohnP and myself have talked and I suggested a #2 class and then a drug class. But what do you do about the guy that has 1 turbo veruses somebody that has 2 or 3 turbo's all on #2.
I personally want to see a Ford come and whip up on all you Chevy and Dodge guys. I may even go as far as offering a reward for any Ford that can whip up on old JohnP's red rocket on the dyno and at the track. How's that for smack talking John ?????
I may even try to get him with my Lightning:eek:
Everybody bring you Fords, Dodges and Chevys and have a good time. Also how do we get this out to other Diesel sites?


Wayne Murphy

Wayne,....that all sounds good to me!! LOL!![laugh]

I want to thank you for all of your support to us on
these events! BTW,.......get that buddy of yours to
come out with that "hot" Ford PSD!! I would like to
see him whip some Chevy Duramaxes!!:o

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John_P

I'll be watching this to see what happens, and if I can make it. Can anyone offer more info on exactly where this takes place? I need to check some maps and maybe book a hotel room. :D

Thanks,
Chris

Chris:

The Dyno Event will be held at "Waynes Dyno and Performance"
just outside Jacksonville, N.C. The drag strip is just a few
miles from Waynes' shop but near Richlands, N.C.

Chris Dubie or myself will post some hotel information
in a few days.

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John_P

Hello
It's time to get a feel for how is going to dyno and who is going to race and who is going to do both.
That is not a problem finding a room to stay at, there are plenty close by.
If you are planning on this event either post your intentions here or PM John or me.

John
We may need to go to the dragway and get this locked on. I'll try and get intouch with you on Wedsday.
Take care
Friends don't let their friends vote for kerry.
See Ya
Chris

I'll be up for both!

Put me down for the dyno only. thanx

Well I am free, and this Duramax has 2 more surprises in store!!!!!:D 440 last time, but gee I have more!

I am interested in both and this will be the first time on a dyno and track for me. I hope this goes off on the fourth of December, since I am deploying for a year in January. I want to get some numbers from my truck to know what toys to save up for while I am gone. Will we get pricing and reservations for the dyno/track once everything is finalized? Do we have to be a member of any particular club or can anyone show up? Thanks

Originally posted by gdh11
Do we have to be a member of any particular club or can anyone show up? Thanks
No Sir,
You don't need to be a member,,,,,,, all ya need is a truck and a good sense of humor cause we do like to kid around with the Ford and GM guys. Be warned,,,,, there are a couple of North Carolina DuraMaxes that are awful quick at the strip! ain't that right Jess?,,, :D

Jared,
Hope to see ya down there. :D

I'd love to spank a Duramax...on my first try at a track! I can't stand Chevy's.

hello
I will try and anwser the pending questions.
First no you do not have to belong to a certain club to race.
Last year the Chevys came on strong and laid some very strong numbers on the dyno and at the drag strip they where very fast till the tranny had other plans. I will go out on that limb and tell you that I don't think we have a Dodge that can keep up with them. They where running drugs but man they where fast. I would like to see a race that has Jess and the Duramax run with a goose neck trailer and me and my truck with the "little six cylinder" with a goose neck trailer. Thoughts?
I will have to talk to the Dynoman and see if active duty military will get a discount. I do not have the cost to run the dyno, I will ask him that as well. I am thinking it will be about $60 for three runs. He will have a cleaning of his shop he will have to deal with after we are done.

This should be a pretty good time, the crap we talk is all in good fun.
If you have a truck and want to race then by all means come on out.
I do not have the cost to run the drag strip yet.
I will be working this to try and make it happen as smooth as it did last year. I am not going to get involved in the chow thing this year. I will get a huge gas grill from the base and let folks cook what ever they want to on it. I plan on either raceing or taping this event to send to Leigh(my wife) over in Iraq. She had a huge part in everything last year.
Any other questions let me know.
Last year the duramaxes kicked the cummins butts.
I sure hope that don't happen again. If it does then I hope everyone had a good time and there was alot of B S spread around.
See Ya
Chris

Chris, I am up for racing and dynoing. I am hoping to have something for the Duramaxs on the track. As luck would have it my wifes Christmas party is Dec4th again( thats the reason I didnt race last year) but I am gonna bring a trailer to get home just in case and race anyways. Let me know if you need me to bring anything, I will probably stay in the Holiday inn again. Tim

It sounds like a good time. If you are wanting to race goosenecks I have a four car trailer that I can bring to race if you want??

Hello
I am just poking alittle fun out there I don't think the track will let us race with a trailer hooked up.
take care
See Ya
Chris

Chris, your evaluation of Jess and Buck's Duramaxes are
pretty much right on, with the exception of one thing.
According to my notes from the dyno and drag racing,
on #2 diesel alone neither of them got under 13 seconds
in the quarter mile. I believe the best was right at 13
seconds flat. Jess can correct that if I am wrong, but
I believe that is right. Johnner (banshee) was able to
run a 12.94 @ 103 in my 2002 Dodge CTD on only #2
diesel. If we are able to have a few Dodges running
a nitrous/propane mix like Jess and Buck do, I believe
the results will be different this year. If "Jetpilot" had
come last year like he planned Jess and Buck would
have had some good competition.

BTW Chris,.....I called your house last week and told
your son to have you call me. Did you get the message??

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John_P

Papa,

I was just poking fun. I doubt the track would let us either, but it would be fun.

Hey all. Glad to see an event in NC that I can attend. I just got back in country. Sorry I haven't kept in contact but I seldomly got a chance to get on a computer with internet while deployed. Glad to be back and hope to see all you guys on Dec 4th.
Terry

hello everybody,
Chris here, Papasmurfs son, met a few of you when i was living back home. Finally got around to checking out the site and decided to join. Any of you wanna race a s-10 with a 350? If im allowed.:D I may have read over it but has a date been throw out yet?

Hey Chris #2,,,,,,,, :D
I haven't met ya yet, but I talked to you on the phone when I called looking for your Dad. I think you were looking for a job back then,,,,,,,, looks like ya found one. [laugh]
I think they are planning on the 4th of Dec. I'm planning on coming down, so I hope to meet you in person. :D

That S-10 ought to be a handfull! :o

Hello
Chris
Bring it on. This event is for everyone that drives a truck, even those with spark plugs :D

John _P and I talked tonight and everything seems to be moving along pretty good. I will post some of what we talked about. As long as the weather stays above 45 degrees we will not have to buy the track for the day. If it drops below 45 degrees we will. so we can race. The cost to race will be figured out soon, if we do have to rent the track for just us. I hope I am not causing confussion.
The racing with a trailer is not a dead issue YET. I hope to go out to the race track in the next week or so and talk to the race track folks. That is one of the questions. My truck runs better when something is hooked to it. [eyecrazy] [eyecrazy]

Take care
See Ya
Chris

hey guys,
Jr here again, i didnt think the date was that close. The S10 is put up for the winter, have a couple projects for next season at the track. Do you guys do a spring meet as well or is it when ever type of thing. There sure are some crazy rides in here. Like the old man said tons of info. Makes me wanna buy a dodge :eek:

Originally posted by the_dubster98
Makes me wanna buy a dodge :eek:
Hey Papa Smurf,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It's only his third post and look at what a change we've made in him! [laugh] By the time he makes his tenth post,,,,,,,,,,,, he'll be asking about the kinds of mods he can do to his new CTD! :D

I'm hoping we have the zoomies flying around the core again by this time and I will definately need a break by then.
Anyone got the number for the Holiday Inn we stayed at last year?
And the directions to get there?

hey guys,papa i am game but i dont hjave a 5th wheel hookup,i can bring a 28 foot enclosed car trailer that we could run a few passes with,it would be fun to try ,but i am not sure how the trailer will react to those speeds,i will give it a few for fun 1/4 runs and let you know,but in the fun of sportsman ship i am in.yes dodges did have the fastest et on diesel only last year,john p's truck ,which was immaculate was a about .05 seconds faster through the 1/4 than mine was,however in all fairness,i didnt have aftermarket turbos or injects,only programming and a tranny.we still dont have a turbo yet but hopefully we may get a prototype to try by then.unless breakage occurs we will run as fast on #2 this year as we did with drugs last year.
also on a note of hopeing to bring in the big guns,i have some potential sponsor donor monet lined up for a heads up diesel racing class.i have contacted dennis perry about coming ,and hope to get in touch with jeff garmon and a few other heavy hitters.would love to see a dodge or a fodge make a 10 second pass,sorry the dmax will not be doing a 10 second pass this year.hopefully the tranny is settled out,but who knows diesel tq can break anything.i hope for this to be the best event ever and hope there are some dodges or even fords there that will best us out.to me it is all fun and the ribbing is that to,i love the whole diesel performance secene and as long as it smokes, i am all for it.

Hello
I am surprised that Dennis or another quick witted member hasn't posted.
YOU MIGHT BE A RED NECK IF YOU DRAG RACE YOUR TRUCK PULLING A TRAILER AT THE LOCAL DRAG STRIP.:D [eyecrazy] [laugh]

That would be great if some of the big guns rolled in to this event.
See Ya
Chris

Originally posted by PapaSmurf
Hello
I am surprised that Dennis or another quick witted member hasn't posted.
YOU MIGHT BE A RED NECK IF YOU DRAG RACE YOUR TRUCK PULLING A TRAILER AT THE LOCAL DRAG STRIP.:D [eyecrazy] [laugh]

:confused: ,,,,,,,, So are you saying that ya'll folks down there in NC don't normally do this? [laugh] I guess the next thing you're gonna tell me is your local drag strip is hard-paved! :rolleyes: :p [laugh]

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
That was to funny.
See Ya
Chris

Hey Jess,..........excuses, excuses, excuses........................[laugh]
Believe me,.......the very small high flow injectors I have along
with the Piers HX-40 barely was enough to beat your Chevys.
But you will be happy to know that I have done absolutely
NOTHING to my 2002 since last year! But,......Tim Barber
has "tweaked" his Dodge a little since then. Go Tim!!!:D
It won't matter anyway,.......Wayne has a customer with
a Ford PSD that he says runs just as good as your Chevys
and will beat alot of the Dodges too!

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John_P

So ummm, did this happen yet? I am honestly too lazy to sift through four pages. If it hasn't happened yet, where? when? I haven't made an event since 02, so maybe it's time to get back into the swing of things ;)

Originally posted by John_P
Hey Jess,..........excuses, excuses, excuses........................[laugh]
Believe me,.......the very small high flow injectors I have along
with the Piers HX-40 barely was enough to beat your Chevys.
But you will be happy to know that I have done absolutely
NOTHING to my 2002 since last year! But,......Tim Barber
has "tweaked" his Dodge a little since then. Go Tim!!!:D
It won't matter anyway,.......Wayne has a customer with
a Ford PSD that he says runs just as good as your Chevys
and will beat alot of the Dodges too!

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John_P i can always come up with more ecuses those were just the ones on top of my head.not much new has been developed for the dmax we have a single tuner program now that will produce over 500 and 1000 to the tires or has on several occasions.with nos and lp mid 600s shouldnt be a big push at all,you know we will just keep ajusting till we get the numbers we want.i am glad Tim is coming back and hope he doesnt need that trailer he said he was bringing along.how about your shied truck John,i am sure its gonna be there putting down some major hp numbers and running the 1/4 in the 12s or faster right.hopefully you will bring it would love to film it all over with the video cam like i did your other truck last year.

papa i did a little playing with the trailer and il bring it but i think i can pull the 28 foot enclosed trailer according to gtech in the mid 14s,if memory serevescorrect that is what your truck ran last year in the 1/4 wit out a trailer.now i know you have done some work to it but i dont see were it would behove you to follow through with this plan.but as stated earlier i am in.this trailer doesnt weight a great deal but does offer some pretty severe wind resistance.know we cold always put a small car in there and strap it down,but i am a bit leary of racing with too much weight in there,its not the pulling that bothers me its the slowing down.any way just some food for thaught

as far as Wayne and a psd coming to spank us i welcome it,i honestly dont think it will touch the dmax but it will prolly get a few dodges and some moderatley chipped dmaxes.i hope to have a few more 6.0s show up ,only one last year and hope for some 7.3s as well.

if you guys know of any super fast diesels try to get them to come down,i should have an idea of money involved by next weeekend,i am sure of 500-750 but may be a s high as 1250 or more.............jess


oh yeah one more thing,did i mention i have an 04 psd now

Originally posted by Jack Thorpe
So ummm, did this happen yet? I am honestly too lazy to sift through four pages. If it hasn't happened yet, where? when? I haven't made an event since 02, so maybe it's time to get back into the swing of things ;)
:o OH,,,,,,NO,,,,,,,,,
Jack is actually thinking about cutting the cord!......... (the one that keeps him attached to the puter,,,) and attend an event?
I'm thinking it's still on for the 4th of December,,,, 2004,,,,, in Jacksonville NC.
Sombody send Jack a map! :D [laugh]

Originally posted by RATTLINRAM

Sombody send Jack a map! :D [laugh]

Are you sure? I thought those were a huge no-no, akin to asking for directions.

Ok Jess you got me.
My best time with just my truck was something like a 16.5 or so.
I bet if you go measure that trailer again it is a few feet longer. Pulling a trailer only added 2 seconds to you 1/4 mile time. WOW :cool:
This sounds better and better each day. I guess in alittle over a month we will know how much is BS. :D [eyecrazy] :D
Everything sounds good so far.
See Ya
Chris

i nevr said my power level was the same as last year,but this was a #2 only pass,the egts did get a bit warm,but i was trying to see what i had if i really needed it.plus my auto doesnt lose boost on the shifts like your clutch,just let me knowif you want me to bring the trailer down for sure or not,hate to drag it down for no reason:p

I don't need a map just times for the event, an address or the name of the track. Never been there before.

Jack:

Heh buddy, good to hear from you!!;)

FYI and for planning, the dyno event is scheduled for
Saturday December 4, 2004 at "Waynes Dyno and
Performance" 3789 Richlands Highway, Jacksonville,
N.C. (910) 346-8623. We are planning to start the
dyno runs around 9:00-9:30 A.M. and run until
everyone is finished. Then on Sunday morning at
around 10:00 A.M. we will be out at "Coastal Plains
Dragway" 4744 Richlands Highway, Jacksonville, N.C.
(just a few miles from "Waynes") where we are
planning on racing the trucks like we did last year.
The only "glitch" at this time is at the drag strip.
If the temperature does not go below 45 degrees
the track will stay open and anyone racing will pay
the regular entry fee of $15.00. Non-racers-$8.00.
However, if the weather turns cold (temps below
45 degrees) Coatsal Plains closes the track. In that
case we would have to pay a track rental fee of
$400.00 to have the track to ourselves for the day.
Recently, the N.C. Hemi (Truck) Owners Group did
just that and everyone paid a part ($25.00) to
be able to race. Anyway, that is the schedule right
now.

It sure would be GREAT to see you come!:D You and
I have not been at an event together since the Dyno Day
at "True Blue Performance" in Benson three years ago???

Hope you can make it Jack!!!

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John_P

Originally posted by John_P
It sure would be GREAT to see you come!:D You and
I have not been at an event together since the Dyno Day
at "True Blue Performance" in Benson three years ago???

Hope you can make it Jack!!!

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John_P
Hey John,
You forgot that he made it to the get-together for the "Pusher-pump install" article,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Oh wait,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that was at HIS house! :rolleyes: [laugh]

Dennis:

Yeah your right, I forgot about our pusher pump install
at Jack's house!:confused: But for dyno events, the
last one we were at together was the event up in
Benson, N.C. Jack is a busy man, that's for sure.

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Joel:

Here is the address and phone number for you and
anyone else who needs it of the "Holiday Inn Express"
which you stayed in last year. Tell them you are with the
"Diesel Truck Resource" Group.

Holiday Inn Express
2115 Highway 17 North
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 347-1900

I also checked on a couple of other motels near the
Holiday Inn. The "InnKeeper Inn" is almost right across
the street from the Holiday Inn. I spoke with one of the
managers there (Jeanette) and she quoted me an event
price of $59.00 which I thought was good. Here is their
address and phone number for anyone who needs it:

The Innkeeper Inn
2139 N. Marine Blvd.
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 938-0800

The last one I went to was a new "Comfort Suites".
Their daily rate is higher @ $94.95 but the Manager
their (Kristy Johnson) said that if ten (10) people
from our group would stay there the rate would
drop to $64.95 per night. Here is the info on this one:

Comfort Suites
130 Workshop Lane
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 346-8900

I can check on some more motels if you need me to.
Just let us know.

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John_P

Hello all

Jess
You got me. There is no way that I can run even close to your 14 pulling a trailer. I guess we forget about racing with trailers attached. ;)

I received a e mail from my wife and she would like me to dyno her truck. So I will probably be dynoing two trucks on Saturday.
She is doing pretty good, they are dodging RPG/motar rounds daily but other that, they are taking care of business. She also said it rained like crazy and now everything is a slimmy mess. The ground over there is like clay and is a real bear when it gets wet.
I will be busy taping everything going on. I bought a DVD recorder so I can send her stuff and I will be making a dvd to send her.

We have some of the fastest Chevys on the EAST COAST coming to this event, I think it would be very cool if we could get some of the many FAST running Dodges to come run against them.

I will bring the GN to the event just in case we need to load up a truck (regardless of brand) that has lost it's motavation. (spelling)

It would even be better if the fuel prices would drop some more. $2.17 I paid tonight. I filled one truck up thinking that depending on which president we get the prices will either start to drop or go higher.
Remember Friends don't let there friends vote for kerry.
Freedom isn't free
See Ya
Chris

Sounds like we may have a better crowd here this year. Should be alot of fun.
John, you know that time of year it should not be that cold for them to close the track.

Wayne:

Yeah, I am hoping it stays warm enough to where they
do not close the track. That way we can each just pay
the $15.00 entry fee to race like they normally do on
"test and tune" days. Heck it will be fun for all of
us to "whip" some of the rice burners that are always
out there![laugh]

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I have received a couple of e-mails about the cost of the
dyno runs. Wayne has set the following prices for the
dyno runs on Saturday December 4, 2004:

Two (2) runs for $40.00
Three (3) runs for $60.00

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John_P

Hey John P. or Papa Smurf,
Any places to park the 5er if I bring that? Wifey doesn't know if she is coming or not,,,, I think y'all had mentioned a place called Cabin Creek the last time.

Anybody got the number for the Holiday Inn or whatever we stayed at last year?

Originally posted by Dieseldude4x4
Anybody got the number for the Holiday Inn or whatever we stayed at last year?
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/slap.gifPOSTED ON PREVIOUS PAGE,,,,, :rolleyes:

Originally posted by John_P
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Joel:

Here is the address and phone number for you and
anyone else who needs it of the "Holiday Inn Express"
which you stayed in last year. Tell them you are with the
"Diesel Truck Resource" Group.

Holiday Inn Express
2115 Highway 17 North
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 347-1900

I also checked on a couple of other motels near the
Holiday Inn. The "InnKeeper Inn" is almost right across
the street from the Holiday Inn. I spoke with one of the
managers there (Jeanette) and she quoted me an event
price of $59.00 which I thought was good. Here is their
address and phone number for anyone who needs it:

The Innkeeper Inn
2139 N. Marine Blvd.
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 938-0800

The last one I went to was a new "Comfort Suites".
Their daily rate is higher @ $94.95 but the Manager
their (Kristy Johnson) said that if ten (10) people
from our group would stay there the rate would
drop to $64.95 per night. Here is the info on this one:

Comfort Suites
130 Workshop Lane
Jacksonville, N.C. 28546
(910) 346-8900

I can check on some more motels if you need me to.
Just let us know.

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John_P

Welcome back "original Junior" Hope to see you at this event.
I myself am looking forward to having a gathering in my backyard. I am going to try to recruit some trucks from New River. There are so many new ones it isn't even funny.

Dennis:

Thanks for your help!;)

I will go by "Cabin Creek Campgrounds" later today and
get the address, phone number, rates etc. and post it
later for you. Thanks for reminding me!

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John_P

Mrs Smurf here,

Haven't dodge any incoming in a day! Rockets and mortars fell outside of our base early this morning. :o Each day becomes a new challenge. For the better part of the day, I have one of the best bunkers! So, I am pretty safe!

I will be looking forward to the video of this event. It should be good show, seems to me that the word of mouth worked pretty good. Chris will have to pullup the flyer from last yr and tweet it some. I'll have to bribe Geoff to have him take off the day to run my truck down the track for his MOM. [laugh]

I'll keep looking at the site when our internet is up. We are down and up quite a bit with opsec, don't want word to leak out to the bad guys. :( Thank goodness for the right enough electoral votes and we will still have a miltary that will stand tall and proud. VOTING works...... I should know, I am the Voting Officer as well.

Dennis as for camp grounds, Cabin Creek is west on Hwy 17 South, about 15-20 miles away. Chris, John_P there is a small camp ground west on Hwy 24/258 split before you get into Richlands, by riding stables. I can't remember the name of the place, that one may be closer than the other.

Keep on posting good info and spreading the news about this event. Each year the amount of trucks in NC grows. Keep up the great work. Can't wait to get home and play with the trucks and tractors. I will mention, I have the greatest husband anyone could ask for. He's put up with my crazy ideas for 20 yrs.

Take care, see every one in March.

Leigh
:D

Sorry, guess I missed the info earlier. It's been a bad week already and going to get worse.

Leigh:

It is good to hear from you!! You keep your head down
and stay safe over there!! We are looking forward to your
safe return!

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John_P

I just made my reservation at the Comfort Suites. I cant believe I talked my wife into letting me go and she is going with.

:eek:

Do we need to submit our names, pay or register to dyno and/or race or is that still being worked out?

Thanks,
George

Originally posted by Mrs Smurf
"I will mention, I have the greatest husband anyone could ask for. He's put up with my crazy ideas for 20 yrs."

Hey Chris,
I suggest that you bookmark this page and quote for future reference. :D [laugh]

Stay safe Leigh. :)

Leigh,

Great to see your smiling face here:) Well you know what I mean ;) Keep your head down and thanks for all you are doing in Iraq.

Lot's of bickering going on this country lately because of the elections, but you would be very hard pressed to actually find some one who doesn't support what you and the troops are actually doing.

Please pass on our collective love to all the people you work with, America loves each and everyone of you!!!

God Bless and hope to see you home soon :)

Semper Fi ;)

De Oppresso Liber

Hello All
That was a nice surprise hearing from Leigh. I did notice that even with her half the world away she is still on top of things. I to am going to brag a bit, it's nice being married to a gal who likes Diesel trucks, racing and such. :D
I will get into the computer and try and find the flyer from last year. If I can find it I will change a few things and print off a bunch. I have been talking about it with the young Marines that I work with. When I tell them there will be a few Diesels there that will be running in the 12 second range. Two of the fastest Chevys on the east coast will be there to take on the Dodges.

Take care
See Ya
Chris

Chris:

Call me when you get that flyer together. "National Dodge"
will help us out with the copies again and we can take them
to the dealers like we did last year in adddition to putting
them on every diesel truck we see in Jacksonville![laugh]

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gdh:

At this time you don't need to pre-pay on anything. Wayne
will charge the members that want to run on the dyno
according to how many runs etc. as listed above. As far
as the drag strip, we are hoping the weather stays a little
warmer until AFTER our rally. That way, we can each just
pay the regular $15.00 "test and tune" admission and not
have to worry about the track rental fee should the track
close because of cold weather.

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John_P

hey guys, and mom,
just found out today i wont be able to make it down. Gotta work that day, bummer. but be sure to take plenty of pics/video's.

def. up to the challange to race some dodges next season!

Dennis:

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the campground
information in case you or any of the other members want to
bring your "5'ers!"

Anyway here is the information for you:

"Cabin Creek Campground"
3200 Highway 17
Jacksonville, N.C. 28540
(910) 346-4808

I spoke with the Manager (Mike Yankow) and he quoted
me a price of $27.00 per night. This includes one (1) electric
outlet (30 or 50 amp), one (1) sewer connection and one (1)
water hook-up. He asked that if anyone plans to stay there
that they call ahead and make a reservation with them. You
can speak with him or his wife Sharon. This camprground is
very close to Waynes and the dragstrip.

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John_P

Thanks John,,,,,, :D

Originally posted by John_P
Wayne:

Yeah, I am hoping it stays warm enough to where they
do not close the track. That way we can each just pay
the $15.00 entry fee to race like they normally do on
"test and tune" days. Heck it will be fun for all of
us to "whip" some of the rice burners that are always
out there![laugh]

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I have received a couple of e-mails about the cost of the
dyno runs. Wayne has set the following prices for the
dyno runs on Saturday December 4, 2004:

Two (2) runs for $40.00
Three (3) runs for $60.00

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John_P


John, the price is

Two[2] for $40.00
Four[4] for $60.00
a extra run could be added for $10.00 either way.

Wayne:

Thanks for the correction!;)

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John_P

Well, looks like I'm out of the running (literally) for this event. Mine started acting up this morning and I didn't think it was going to get me home. No power, no smoke, no boost, and the hammer feels like you're stepping on a plum. Turbo hoses are all in tact, good fuel pressure, and no leaks I can find anywhere. Air filter is not clogged and nothing looks out of the ordinary from the outside. It's going to have to sit there till next year now till I figure out what I'm going to do with it. With all the stuff I've been through on this truck this year, I'm seriously considering turning that engine into a boat anchor and going back stock. Luckily, I've got my 92 to fall back on.

Ya'll have a good time.

Sorry to hear that Joel. Seems like around here the 99's are just not able to hold their guts. Glad mine is gone.

Hey John, I saw you on this morning, I got the weekend off for the event so I will be there. Have some company coming with me as well. So see ya soon Buddy!

Hey Jared,,,,,,,
Could you bring some good DVD movies so I can sit in the back and watch TV while you're on the dyno and drag racing? (I haven't seen Shrek II yet,,,,)

Oh yeah,,,,, can ya use the On Star to order pizzas? That would be cool too! :p [laugh]

King d, Informed us about this event we might be able to bring our Dmax for some fun .NLDP

Jared:

Thanks for the reply! It will be great to see you again.
See if you can't get some more of the "Kentucky Crew"
to come down with you!;)

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John_P

Well I know Country Girl, Amore (Kick Start) and a few others are coming. So we may have 4 to 6 people with us. I may dyno again, if I can get a few things done before then. I went 440 with David. I am looking at a Suncoast tranny right now.:D Then another programmer to hopefully put me up in the early 5 range, and maybe more.

Sounds good Jared! Looking forward to seeing you guys
again.

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John_P

we have an extra suncoast if you are interested il bring it to the show

This event is going to be great! I will be there both days. This will give me the chance to meet all of you. I'm trying to get my friend to bring his 03 cobra out to the track because I'd like to see him get wooped up on by a 7000lbs truck, but he knows what I'm up too[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] John P if you need me to do anything to help let me know. I can't wait to see your truck run. Maybe you can talk my buddy into bringing his cobra out on sunday and we can get it on video. Even better we'll get his father-in-law to bring his 87 Grand National.

let me know what you might need.

CRIS

I have a customer with a 03 Cobra that we've done alittle work to;) maybe I can get him to come also.

Would that be a sonic blue 03 or the kenny bell one? My buddy has the blue one.
Why is this event not on waynes web site? I'm a member but I did't post it there because I thought there might be a reason for the lack of this info.

Wayne if your out there let me know if you will need any help on the 4th.

CRIS

Cris:

Thanks for volunteering!;)

As this event gets a little closer I will get up with you.
Chris Dubie (PapaSmurf) has sent me the copy of the
fliers, so we should try and get some of those out.

Thanks!

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John_P

Originally posted by masonic-dodge
Would that be a sonic blue 03 or the kenny bell one? My buddy has the blue one.
Why is this event not on waynes web site? I'm a member but I did't post it there because I thought there might be a reason for the lack of this info.

Wayne if your out there let me know if you will need any help on the 4th.

CRIS

It's a Strawberry Red 03 with a Kennebell blower.
I haven't put this event on my website because I don't have many members that have diesels, but I guess that is a mistake on my part and it will be corrected today.
I have some help already, thanks for asking.
If anyone on here wants my web address PM me. I can't advertise it on this website.:confused:

why cant you just say visit waynesdyno.net for a wed direction page?

Originally posted by king d
why cant you just say visit waynesdyno.net for a wed direction page?

The mods can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to pay to advertise on this site. That rule includes adding links in posts or signatures.

Hello
John
Do you know if the drag strip is running there test/tune on Sundays now?? If so do you want to go out there this Sunday? I can go for a few hours, I will have to be on the road to Raleigh around 2:oo so I can catch a plane to Washington state at 5:oo.

I would like to get a count of how many folks are going to Dyno and how many are going to race if I could.

I am in for dynoing 2 trucks and My son Geoffrey has a high power FORD RANGER
So count us as 3 for the dyno.
and 2 trucks to race.
Time to get going.
See Ya
Chris

Hey Chris,

Coastal switched to Sundays a couple of weeks ago. As for this weekend, tho, both Dad and I will be out of town, so we won't be able to make it. I would like to go before the rally.... maybe they'll be open next weekend.

For the rally I'm going to dyno and race.

Do we have any bets on who will have the top HP number? :)

John

Originally posted by banshee
The mods can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to pay to advertise on this site. That rule includes adding links in posts or signatures.

It's fine to supply a link in a post. We just don't allow the links to be put in the signatures unless you are a site advertiser. Obviously, we don't want the same link to show up in every post that a person makes, but supplying a link to look for info or point out a certain product in a pertaining thread is fine. :)

I'm going to try and be there for both...

TOP Hp! HEHEHEHEHEHE I forgot is this broke down into brands or is it just overall. I think Overnight Express has my goodies on the way next week. HEHEHEHEHE I may make a good show above 400+

I am up for racing and dynoing. How are you going to break the dyno classes down? I have some new sticks coming to test out. Tim

Originally posted by RATTLINRAM
It's fine to supply a link in a post. We just don't allow the links to be put in the signatures unless you are a site advertiser. Obviously, we don't want the same link to show up in every post that a person makes, but supplying a link to look for info or point out a certain product in a pertaining thread is fine. :)

So what your saying is I can put www.waynesdyno.net in this so the people that are coming can use map quest for directions?

If so there it is. There is a link to e-mail me any questions.

Thanks RATTLINRAM;)

I talked with Chris last night and we are going to check the
status of the drag strip to make sure that Coastal Plains
is still going to be open on Sunday for the "test and tune."
As I said in my earlier posts,.....if they do close because
of cold weather we will have to pay out the track rental
fee of $400.00 to have the track to ourselves all day.
So far we figure we have ten (10) members wanting to
race so that would be $40.00 each! If we get to this
situation how many of you are willing to do this??
Hopefully it won't come to that, but Chris and I are
trying to plan ahead.
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Jared and Tim:

You guys asked about classes. One limiting factor on that
is the trophies. I am still trying to secure sponsors for the
trophies and don't think I will get enough to make as many
classes as Hammer had at "Fall Brawl." If you guys want
to do it on paper for the "bragging rights" that is fine with
us. Let me know what you think...................

BTW Tim what do mean when you say "you have some
new sticks coming to test out?" Tim, I also have those
metal driveshaft hoops for you and will bring them to
you.

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John_P

JOHN

I'll be there both days, I most likely wont run on sunday but I'll pay to run. I have no problem paying the fee to see you guys race,play and have fun![roll] [roll] but anyway count me in.

CRIS

I saw Chris at work today and he brought up a good point. I have not said when we were going to start.


DOORS WILL OPEN AT 9:30 Is that OK with everyone????

John P.,
I don't need to dyno, but I would like to race Sunday. :D

Wayne 0930 sounds good. Is there gonna be anything going on Friday night? I am thinking of coming down Friday like last year. Maybe meet up at Hooters? John thanks for getting the safty loops. Do you plan on bringing both your trucks? I will call you soon. Tim

john we will have for sure 2 to dyno and race and perhaps as many as 5 for both.also feel free to email me for help on the trophys or to sponsor a trophy for a class,would be an honor,as far as classes go and break downs,it will be interesting to see how it is done.for instance,and i mean no offence to any one hear just my .02 a few years back when i had a dodge , the diesel mod scene and technology wasnt as far along as it is know.i remeber reading the the tdr magazine and twin turbos were treated very similar to nos and lp,at least as far as acknowlegdment in the mag went.now this was only 4 years ago,well alot has changed and the technology for the dodge as well as others has come a long long ways,but on the other side of the coin, the dmax has no reliable test proven injectors or turbos that have been released for purchase.the ford 7.3s are just starting to gain some ground with the new hpop technology.and the new psd 6.0s i dont ever see them catching up.i would hate to see the classes broken down into groups that wouldnt give all makes and models equal footing.me personally i dont see a big difference between twins and nos as far as power goes,dont get me wrong if twins were an option for the dmax i would be in but as of now it isnt.why not perhaps have classes that are as follows(just suggestions) 1 plug in play class,basically stock truck with plug in module or flash tuner. or just screws turned on the 12 valves no major engine or turbo up grades. 2 class for dialy driven street diesel with bigger single chargers injects tranny upgrades.exct.. 3 twins and diesels with one power adder such as lp or nos....4 all out any goes,jada rockets included.just suggestions for a start,once again my intent is not to start a fight or to anger people just giving on opinion.... hope to see you all there....jess

Well, looks like I am definately out now. My brand new four month old injector pump appears to be heading south. We're still working 80 hours a week trying to get this plant back on line and I do not have time to change it. I was hoping to run this 99 down the quarter to compare it to last year with all the work I had done but it is sitting in the car port near dead right now until I decide what to do with it. I've got the 92 sold already and the 99 may be going right behind it if I can ever get it running right again. I've got over $1600 in that truck this year and I'm about done with it all together.

Ya'll have a good time.

Joel
Sorry to hear about the bad luck. Don't do it. Don't get rid of that great looking truck. I would check on a warrinty (spelling) on the pump before I did anything. Good luck Buddy

King D
I read and reread your post. It was pretty good, I do not know enough about twins and Nos/other things being equal so I can not even go there.

If we have classes here is how I think they should go.
Stock
I mean bare bones stock no ez box no injectors NO anything except what the OEM put in it from the factory. If it smokes then we look for stuff. We pretty much know what truck will run as far as HP goes. I will have to go back to the FALL BRAWL and see how they evened the score for the older trucks with the less
stock HP.

Modified
Plug and plays OK
Injectors OK
ONE turbo OK

Modified w/Additional fuel sources
one turbo
Pump what ever you want into the engine.
Subject to a safty inspection.

Modified w/ Additional air sources.
Run what ever turbo combination you desire.
NO additional fuel source
Water injection is OK
Subject to a safty inspection.

Unlimited
Run what you brung and hope you brung enough.
Subject to a safty inspection.

that is my two cents worth.
Any thoughts?? John is working on the trophys, if we run it this way we will need 5 trophys

At the race track we will be bracket racing so you will be racing the clock. That means that me in my slow 16.5 truck may run against the fast truck of King D 11/12 sec truck. I will almost be at the end of the run before he will get the green light:D [laugh] :D
This sounds like a great time.
Just remember this is all in good taste and fun
See Ya
Chris

Hello again
For the stock class
If you are running a different air intake system that is OK
Different exhaust OK
Crome radiator cap MAYBE:D [laugh] :D OK
different tire/rim combo OK

This is going to be a great time
Hope to see old (young) friends and meet new friends young and old.
See Ya in a few weeks
Chris

As for the HOOTERS thing.
If folks would like to go there on Friday evening then I guess I can force myself to drive there for dinner or a evening snack on chicken wings of course.
Who and what time is good to meet at HOOTERS on Friday night.

I only go there because I really like the wings they serve. ;)
My wife set the rules years ago I can look but not touch, and when I look I must not look like I am looking;) :p Ain't that right Honey.;) [laugh] :D ;)
Man I can sure dig a hole fast can't I
See Ya
Chris

Hey is there not a Dyno and Drag Race Event for Diesel trucks set in
Jacksonville NC for Dec,3 & 4

JRTUC
The event you are talking about is this one and it is on the 4th and 5th of Dec.
Hope to see you there.
See Ya
Chris

Tim:

You are welocome on the driveshaft hoops!;) And "Hooters"
sounds great to Johnner and I for Friday night.

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Joel:

Sorry to hear about your truck. I believe if you will just call
J.P. @ Scheid Diesel (1-800-669-1593) that he will be able
to help you out with that pump. It came from Scheid right?

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Jess:

Some of your ideas on the classes sound alright, but as
I said last year I disagree with you about the twins and
nitrous being the same. The reason for that???

With the nitrous systems you and Buck run, you guys can
just keep digging into your plastic bag of jets and adding
more and more gas as the runs go on, kind of like you did
last year. As the size of the jet goes up, so does the H.P.
and torque! The twin turbos on my truck or say Tim's truck
do add H.P. over a single charger, BUT,...........you cannot
ADD anymore H.P. by changing a jet!! You said there
is no twin turbo systems for the Duramaxes and that is
also incorrect. Clint Cannon had a very good set-up on
his up until he took it off last year. As I recall, he was
running the stock Chevy Duramax Turbo on top and had
a Holset HT3B on the bottom. I rode in the truck and it
ran darn good!! You are also wrong on the injectors for
the Duramaxes. Both ATS and Scheid Diesel can build you
a set of injectors for your trucks!! They are very expensive
though ($1200-$1500.00) and it is my understanding that
they should be set-up with no more than 15% fueling
over the stock nozzles although that may have changed
now. There is a white Chevy Duramax in Rockville, Ind.
with Scheid built injectors for and it is very, very quick!
I rode in it at the Scheid Rally and so did my son.
Here are their numbers if you or Buck are interested:

Scheid Diesel: 1-800-669-1593 (Talk to J.P.)
ATS Diesel: 1-800-949-6002 (Talk to Clint)

Hope this has helped you some.

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John_P

So,,,,,,,, does this mean there will be no seperate class for "1999 Intense Blue-2wd-with long-haired driver" class?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Bummer,,,,, :rolleyes: [laugh]

BTW John,
if you have a copy of the flyer for this event, send me the file when you get a chance. RATTLINRAM@juno.com

Thanks.

Originally posted by John_P

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Jess:

Some of your ideas on the classes sound alright, but as
I said last year I disagree with you about the twins and
nitrous being the same. The reason for that???

With the nitrous systems you and Buck run, you guys can
just keep digging into your plastic bag of jets and adding
more and more gas as the runs go on, kind of like you did
last year. As the size of the jet goes up, so does the H.P.
and torque! The twin turbos on my truck or say Tim's truck
do add H.P. over a single charger, BUT,...........you cannot
ADD anymore H.P. by changing a jet!! You said there
is no twin turbo systems for the Duramaxes and that is
also incorrect. Clint Cannon had a very good set-up on
his up until he took it off last year. As I recall, he was
running the stock Chevy Duramax Turbo on top and had
a Holset HT3B on the bottom. I rode in the truck and it
ran darn good!! You are also wrong on the injectors for
the Duramaxes. Both ATS and Scheid Diesel can build you
a set of injectors for your trucks!! They are very expensive
though ($1200-$1500.00) and it is my understanding that
they should be set-up with no more than 15% fueling
over the stock nozzles although that may have changed
now. There is a white Chevy Duramax in Rockville, Ind.
with Scheid built injectors for and it is very, very quick!
I rode in it at the Scheid Rally and so did my son.
Here are their numbers if you or Buck are interested:

Scheid Diesel: 1-800-669-1593 (Talk to J.P.)
ATS Diesel: 1-800-949-6002 (Talk to Clint)

Hope this has helped you some.

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John_P [/B] call clint yourself and ask if the twins are for sale,il save you the time they are not and also his set up was not practical to run in an every day work enviromesnt b/c the air cleaner is hanging down by the bumper ,i do use my truck to work on the farm,call clint and ask if his larger compressor single turbo is yet available,il save you the time they are not.as for the injectors they are exspensive,very much so however there are 2 issues to be addressed 1 most injectors of this kind even though they can be purchased all the bugs have not been ironed out,to many of them balance way out of wack.2 ther is no proof that has ever been provided that injectors give more hp than can be obtained through optimal programming. every one i know with injects, even the 15 overs have lost hp on diesel only.and only gained a small amount of hp when nitrous is used.also proper programming can over demand the stock oil pump and until somebody comes up with a way to turn this pump up more injects are a big waste of time.most damaxes with injects cant keep a decent rail pressure ie...desired doesnt keep up with commanded.which means the pump is catching it and it isnt good for it either .
as far as nos and twins being the same i never said they were i said that a few years ago people who ran twins were treated like people who ran drugs.and i dont hink it is fair for a twin compounded truck to be in the same class as a single chargered truck.as far as the jetting goes that is true we did continue to add air and fuel but a few of the 12 valvers truned some fuel up themselves.but fact is out of the gates with the first jet sizes we had the the top hp then just added a few more to see how high we could go.i dont know exactly how to make the classes even it was only a suggestion.
as a side point john i thought your truck was the nicest one there it occupies much more video space then any others followed pretty closely by tims.i look forward to the evnt and the offer on the trophy stil stands.hope ths helps

Jess:

I don't want to "debate" this much more here as it is
a thread for the N.C. Dyno and Drag Race. But,..........
it was my understanding Clint was going to try and
market his Duramax Twin Turbo set-up. Maybe the
issue of that filter location precluded that. In your
situation (farming, dusty conditions etc.) maybe
that would not work, but I am here to tell you his
truck ran good! FWIW, the BHAF Clint ran to the
bottom charger was just behind his transfer case
under the truck, not behind the bumper when I
saw it.

I never said "injectors give more H.P. than optimal
programming of fueling boxes." My point to you on
the injectors was to try and let you know they are
out there and of the Duramaxes I rode in that had
them they ran very well! It was Clint who told me
back in May of this year that in his testing he found
that the CR Dodges and Chevy Duramaxes did not
respond well to any injector over about 10-15%
above stock. This was through extensive dyno
testing in his ATS shop in Wheat Ridge of not only
the Duramax but also his gray 2004 Dodge CTD CR.

The common rail fuel systems on the 2004-2005
Dodge CTD CR Trucks and the 2004-2005 Chevy
Duramaxes are very similar Jess. The fuel systems
have to have a "pusher" pump like the Holley Blue
my son Johnner installed on his 2004 Dodge CTD CR.
The difference in pressures??? Without his Holley
Blue his fuel pressure was "0" at WOT with ONLY
the Edge EZ Box! WITH the Holley Blue AND a TST
PM 3 CR stacked with an Edge EZ he has 14-15lbs.
at WOT! We will be glad to show you how we
installed it if you are interested at the rally. However,
you still have the issues with the stock oil pump on
the Duramax which doesn't appear to be an issue
on the Dodge Cummins CR Engine.

The last point is again about the the issue of twin
turbos vs. single charger diesels. While I would
agree that it is unfair to run them "heads up"
H.P. to H.P. on #2 diesel ALONE, I feel that it
is also unfair to the twin charger trucks to have
to compete with a single charger PLUS nitrous
and propane like you run when you can stand
there with your plastic bag of jets and just keep
"ramping up" the H.P. with jet after jet of NOS and
more propane gas! Sorry, but that is how I feel
about it. No offense to you or your brother, just
my .02 cents! ;) Lets see what the other members
think and we can decide from there. The classes
are a good idea though and seemed to work well
at "Fall Brawl."

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John_P

I am looking forward to seeing everyone again. I have video of your truck also Jess, first time I seen a Duramax actually put up numbers like that. Regardless of how we do the classes it will be fun. Maybe we will start seeing the fords compete also, at fall brawl I watched a 7.3 put out over 500 on diesel and 590 on n2o. Tim

john the turbos are not released,hoped to have one of clints for the dyno day but it sure doesnt look good.i have a pusher pump on my dmax as well but the pressure i was talking about was in mpas which is a measure of psi in the rails actual verses desired,programming alone can overload this even with a pusher installed.,,,in which a difference of several thousand psi can be seen.i also agree that double drugs is to much to put in the class with the the twin charger dodges,thats why i suggestd only running one power adder,nos which only adds air tot he mix not fuel.i think bottom line is is that we all are very competeive and we want the playing field to be level.i can agree to disagree it was just a suggestion on my behalf.you guys decide what you want to do and il be there on the 4th and roll with the whatever the masses decide, lets hope we can get close to all agreeing it will make the day much more enjoyable.....tim i cant wait to see the extra hp....see you all there ...til then

Dennis
You can run your BLUE truck against my BLUE truck.
Heads up racing I think you will have me. I loose my boost each shift, all you do is hold it to the floor.

Geoffrey has been tasked by his mother to run her truck in this event. I have been tasked with taping as much as I can so I can send a CD of the event to her.
I raced Geoffrey off a light and the 04 3500 holds her own until I get in 4 or 5th gear then I take over. My truck is limited by me I can not shift fast enough.

I am still looking into pulling the goose nck down the track with a Farmall super M on it just to see what it will do. My truck runs better when it has something behind it. The combined weight will be close to 19,000 lbs.
I still need to talk to the race track about that.
See Ya
Chris

Originally posted by PapaSmurf
Dennis
You can run your BLUE truck against my BLUE truck.
Heads up racing I think you will have me. I loose my boost each shift, all you do is hold it to the floor.


Well let's see,,,,,,,,,,, last year I had ya stick that EZ under the hood for me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if I can get ya to stick those DD2's in for me this time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you can tell Geoffrey I might be able to give that white HO 3500 a run for your money! [laugh] [laugh]

Sorry Dennis
I will be to busy taping the event to change injectors. I have a deal for you. You get to the Dyno early and let your truck cool off and say in 3/4 hours we talk Tim VA into changing the injectors. I would recommend that you buy new seal rings (copper washers) to seal the injectors. Let me know if you are interseted.
See Ya
Chris

Originally posted by PapaSmurf
WOW :eek: :eek:
Easy now big boys
I am the self apointed marshall of this event Here is how it will be.
I AM NOT INTO THIS TWINS VS NOS OR WHAT EVER thing. I am a die hard diesel head. I don't care if you are raceing a IH 656 against a IH 1066 or a John Deere 644 against a Cat 988 or a J D 4010 against a case 1070, Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge. folks will find a way to bend the rules. The below classes are based on events that I have attended.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN DON'T SHOW UP. This event is meant for fun and fellowship if you are just looking for a trophy this is not your weekend.

1 STOCK
2 MODIFIFIED
3 MODIFIFIED/W FUEL ADDITIONAL SOURCES
4 MODIFIFIED/ W ADDITIONAL AIR SOURCE
5 RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG

So far two of the above 5 trophies have been locked on.
King D if the folks you are in contac with with pony up to the other three that would be great. Either let me know here or PM me. I will be leaving for Wa state on Sunday the 21st and won't be back till the 24 th. I need to know by then so if need be I will go get the other trophies out of my pocket.

I did most of the leg work on this so if you want let me know and we can go to the tree line and settle this the old way if need be.

Chris Dubie just out of curiousity what trophys have been secured?

and i dont hink it is fair for a twin compounded truck to be in the same class as a single chargered truck

Why? Sorry, but when properly setup a single w/ N20 will always out-dyno a twin chargered truck. A 24V Dodge struggles to get over 650 HP with twins, but there are quite a few over that on the bottle. I don't consider nitrous cheating (in fact, DHRA rules allow singles w/ NOS vs. twins), but the fact remains they will usually dyno higher. Most guys just like twins because of the driveability and "always there" power.

Dennis,

I can give you a hand w/ the injector swap if you'd like....

John

Thanks Johnner,
It was actually kind of a joke,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, http://deephousepage.com/smilies/scratchchin.gif ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But then again ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I might just give Chris a call and find out what his rental fee is gonna be. :D [laugh]

C'mon Dennis... you know you want to... it's cool!!! Everyone's doing it!!!!... LOL

STOCK- This class is limited as in the years past to the following mods,air intakes and aftermarket exhausts.NOTHING ELSE!.I am going to try and figure a way to make all the years competitive with each other as the newer common rail injection trucks have way more HP than the older rides.Those caught with other unapproved mods in this class will forfeit any chance of winning anything.Please be honest owners,this is a fun show and I'd like to keep it that way.

MODIFIED-This class is limited to a SINGLE turbo with NO PUMP CONVERSIONS(example:A 24 Valve single turbo truck with a P-Pump installed)and on #2 ONLY.The use of over the counter fuel additives is permitted but NO DRUGS(this includes meth injection and water misters).Aftermarket chargers,fueling boxes,injectors and pusher pumps are all legal.Owners who run single chargers and use drugs may compete as long as their bottle has been disconnected or removed,these owners will be asked to show they did this when they enter the dyno room.

COMPETITION-This class will allow any fuel pump combination(example:P-Pump conversions),any charger(twins included) or supercharger and run on #2 alone.Over the counter fuel additves permitted but NO DRUGS(this includes meth injection and water misters).Any injector,fueling box,aftermarket turbos(twins permitted) and pusher pumps are ok.Owners who have drugs may compete but must disconnect their bottles or tanks and will be asked to show this when they enter the dyno room.

UMLIMITED-Run What Ya Brung...This is the "Don't Bring A Knife To A Gunfight Class".
Any fuel,charger configuration any amount of drugs can be used here.The only rule here is the HOOD MUST close and latch tightly.This is for safety reasons as we have seen the aftermath of a head-gasket explosion with the hood open.

The information above I pulled from tha FALL BRAWL post. Hammer and JetPilot came up with that and it semed to work well.
I think it is a better than the classes that I had written down.

Remember this is meant to be a fun event to get together and shoot the bull and have a good time.

Hope this clears up the mess I made.
See Ya
Chris

Originally posted by banshee
C'mon Dennis... you know you want to... it's cool!!! Everyone's doing it!!!!... LOL
Just remember Johnner,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I did beat ya that one time,,,,,,,,, not sure I would be so lucky now,,,,,, [laugh]
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/17270NCdrags3.jpg

Originally posted by banshee
Why? Sorry, but when properly setup a single w/ N20 will always out-dyno a twin chargered truck. A 24V Dodge struggles to get over 650 HP with twins, but there are quite a few over that on the bottle. I don't consider nitrous cheating (in fact, DHRA rules allow singles w/ NOS vs. twins), but the fact remains they will usually dyno higher. Most guys just like twins because of the driveability and "always there" power.



John i dont think it is fair for a single chargered truck with out nos to have to compete in the same class as a twin powered truck,just like i dont feel like it would be fair for twins to have to run against a truck running lp and nos together.i also new aboput the dhra nos and twin deal.my whole point is to try and amke the classes as even as possible so all makes have a good chance at competting.

Dennis I have some injectors you can try. Your turbo will probably glow red but it will put out some power. Kidding aside if you want to install some injectors there we should be able to them in about a hour so you dyno before and after. I will bring tools. Tim

Jess:

The trophies that we have right now are:

Highest H.P., #2 Diesel
Highest H.P. #2 Diesel, Plus + (Ex.: Nitrous and or propane)

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Chris:

O.K. Chris, I'll go to the "tree line with you!"[laugh]

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John_P

I'm still working with Tim to see if we can get this junk running again but between work and getting this done, it isn't looking real good. Sounds like it is going to be a good time again.

Hello
Much better mood tonight. I should go back and delete the post from the other night. Sorry About That:eek: [tapdshut] [rant]

Dose the way Fall Brawl ran the event make sense. I already know that not everyone will be happy.
single chargers are a different class from dual chargers.
NOS and propane will be in their own class. Folks that run drugs can if they want run in the other two classes if they wish as long as the bottles are unhooked or turned off. The stock folks will be together.
I was out at the local mudd bog tonight talking up the event there was allot of interest.

Dennis shoot me a e mail at cdubie@ec.rr.com I tried to sent you the flyer and it came back undeliverable.
So are you interested in the slightly used sent of DDIIs??
You thought that the EZ box woke your truck up try the DDIIs :cool: :D. Let me know and I bring them to the event.

I will be leaving for Washington State around noon on the 21st. I will be back on the evening of the 24th. If the trophy issuse is not handled by then I will go take care of that on the 26th.
I hope the wheather holds for a couple of more weeks it was above 70 degrees here today.
See Ya
Chris

do you want to run in classes?like just run stocks,then modifieds,exct or will a truck pull in and before each run say this is what this is for?becuase of time constraints and economics i think the later of the 2 is the best bet.know as far as unhooking my bottles i will gladly open the lid so anyone of you can check to see its turned off but i am not gonna unhook the lines,i think that is more than sufficient.
john thanks for the info on the trophys,i have sent p smurf an email concering the trophys and he has not gotten back with me yet i am sure he is buisy with hhis upcoming trip

Hello
Jess
I went to the local mud bog yesterday, they had some of the rail cars there with blowers and NOS. Pretty good time. Didn't mean to gaff you off. I also believe that shutting off the valve will be just fine.

Let's get back to making this a good time event .

I still need to PM Hammer and talk to him about how they converted the stock trucks HP from the different years to get them a even playing fields.

Yes that is the plan run the trucks in what ever order they come through the door. I hope to have a dry erase board with the names and classes and what the HP/Torq. That is how we will keep track of who run what.

I got to get moving I still have to throw clothes in a case and tie up a few loose ends and hit the door
See Ya
Chris

Can someone send me a copy of the flyer so I can get some passed out in my area, I think I can get alot of people to show up. I,m bringing about 12 people with me on sunday, not to run but to watch.

CRIS

Hey everyone,
Click on the image below for a larger version.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/524/17270NCshootout04-med.jpg (http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/524/17270NCshootout04.jpg)
This was changed into a jpeg file so I could post it. When you click on the pic above, it will show you the larger size. This larger size can be printed, however you may have to play with your printer margin settings in order to get the whole thing. I used .25" on the side margins in order to get the entire flyer from the jpeg.
Send me a PM with your email if you want the MSword file instead.

Does anyone have the directions from this area again?

There is a Map Quest link on my site with directions here.

www.waynesdyno.net

I hope I can line up next to Dennis. I have a new DVD to play while I race him. Anyone over 21 can watch! [laugh]

Better not let John near it. his old heart may get a flutter!!!!

Hey Dennis... I remember that day. My poor truck only had like 200 miles on it, too.....:( That handshaker is still a pain at the strip :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hired Gun
I hope I can line up next to Dennis. I have a new DVD to play while I race him. Anyone over 21 can watch! [laugh]

Better not let John near it. his old heart may get a flutter!!!!
[laugh] Well in that case,,,,,,, if you start the movie and order the pizza when the tree goes green,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I should make it to the end of the strip before the credits roll and I like my pizza cold anyway! [laugh]

Originally posted by banshee
Hey Dennis... I remember that day. My poor truck only had like 200 miles on it, too.....:( That handshaker is still a pain at the strip :rolleyes:
Yeah sure Johnner,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:
I guess with all the mods ya got now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I don't have a prayer even if you promise to use Low-Range! [laugh]

well what is your favorite pizza? I want to keep you happy. Dont want you mad at me.

Nothing fancy,,,,,,,,,, NO ONIONS,,,,,,, Double cheese,,,,NO ONIONS,,,,,,, Double pepperoni,,,,,,,, NO ONIONS,,,,,,, Stuffed crust will be fine,,,,,,, none of that other goofy stuff needed. OH yeah,,,,,,, did I sayNO ONIONS,,,,,,, [laugh]

I think he wants a ONION pizza. Wow that's just gross!!!I like double cheese and pepperoni.[laugh]

Plain cheese and or plain cheese and pepperoni!!

Like Dennis said,..................NO ONIONS!!!!

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John_P

john your pm box is full,so the 2 dyno trophys should be for stock and modified classes.and the track trophys will be for fastest dodge chevy and ford.i will mail you a check out on friday.the trophy sponsor will be at the event ,his name is steven swain and he sells bd, bdog,va,edge,ppe,ats,and about anything else you may want.....

Hello all
The trophies for the dyno are taken care of, there will be one for "stock highest HP", one for "modified highest HP", one for "competition highest HP" and one for "unlimited highest HP".
This takes care of the dyno day trophies. They will be ready for pick up on the 3 of Dec.

King D
Are you bringing trophies for the fastest trucks?

I will be bringing a big grill for those of you that want to grill up some meat or road kill. I am thinking about making a crook pot full of chili.
I will be bringing a white board to write the class HP/Torq and names down on.

This event is for everybody with a truck, so if you have a gas burner you can run if you want to see what sort of numbers you have. All are welcome. My son has a Ford ranger that he will be running on the dyno. He wanted to race it, but his mother asked him if he would race her truck. He was all :D :D after that.

See Ya
Chris

Originally posted by PapaSmurf


I will be bringing a big grill for those of you that want to grill up some meat or road kill. I am thinking about making a crook pot full of chili.


Chris, You want me to check with Jack to see if we can borrow a Firemans Helmet, so you can cook us up some Brats? :D [whistle]

Thanks Top but I don't think we will be needing one, unless the Bratmaster is coming down:D [eyecrazy] [laugh] then we may need more than a Firemans hat.[laugh] [eyecrazy] [laugh]
We may have to have the whole fire dept on stand by.:eek:
Take care
Wish the very best for you and yours.
See Ya
Chris

Top, are you coming down. I will bring the brats again if you are gonna cook them. What does our weather look like? Anyone seen the 10 day forcast? Here s hoping for some 70 degree weather. See you all next weekend. Tim

Originally posted by PapaSmurf
Hello all
The trophies for the dyno are taken care of, there will be one for "stock highest HP", one for "modified highest HP", one for "competition highest HP" and one for "unlimited highest HP".
This takes care of the dyno day trophies. They will be ready for pick up on the 3 of Dec.

King D
Are you bringing trophies for the fastest trucks?

i pmed john and told him i had a sponsor for the last two dyno classes and for three track trophys,i hope he was gonna check with the trophy shop and see if they could do it for the meet.john i sent you a check for the trophys out today...one week away guys getting close lets hope for some 55 degree weather good for hp...jess

Hello
Tim I am hoping that next weekend will be like this one was.
Today I was working in the yard with a tee shirt and jeans. they are calling for rain tonight, we'll see.
I hope to pull out some bushes tomarrow if the super M won't do it then I will use my truck and BLOW some smoke and get them out one way or another.
Looking forward to talking to you about BOMBing a transmission in a 3rd gen.:D I want to beef up the trans. in Leigh Ann's 3500 so I can add some more HP/Torq. Looking for another 100/or so Hp and as much Torque as I can get. I want to get the 04 to pull like my 01 does. Once I get the 04 to pull like my 01 then I can start getting crazy with my 01
See Ya
Chris

Jess:

Thanks for your help on the trophies! Chris Dubie and
myself have taken care of the ones for the dyno event.
I will get up to the trophy shop on Monday and have the
ones made up for the drag race event using your friend
as the sponsor for that.

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John_P

According to the Weather Channel (which is ALWAYS right :rolleyes: ) it is supposed to rain Wednesday, be clear Thursday through Saturday, and cloudy on Sunday. 10% chance of rain on Saturday, 30% on Sunday. NOAA is showing 0% Thursday through Saturday, 10% Saturday night, 14% on Sunday, and 30% Sunday night. Temps are looking to be in the upper 50s - Lower 60s and Lows in the upper 30s. As long as the rain holds off the track should be open Sunday for regular Test & Tune.

John

Johner, I will be leaving Va Beach around 230 friday so should put me in down there by 630. We still going to Hooters friday night? I will give you or your father a call when I get in. Tim

I made reservations at the Cabin Creek Campground and will be getting there sometime around noon or a little later on friday. :D

Hey Tim,

Yeah, Hooters is still the plan for Friday night. Give me a holler and we'll meet up with you at the hotel and cruise on over.

John

HOOTERS OH YEAH

I hear the hot wings are very good there.:D [eyecrazy] [laugh]
See Ya
Chris

I will have a sign up sheet if it is OK with you guys. It will be on the bench, when you get here sign in and that's how you will be run. It seems to go better when I do it that way.
I have the WinPep 7 software up and running{I think} so we'll be able to see all the way to 1500 hp and tq. now. I do want to try 1 truck both ways to see if there is a difference in the power that is shown.
See you all soon.

Dennis:

I will come by the campground on Friday to see you!

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Tim:

Give me a call when you get in.

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BTW,.....The trophies have all been been taken care of.

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John_P

John I will call from the hotel, probably at Holiday Inn but have not decided yet. Wayne I will get there early to sign up but would like to dyno in the middle of the day when it is warmest if possible. I am gonna be pushing a lot of fuel hope you have better ventilation. I have a video last year of everyone bailing out of your shop and that was just with mach 5s. Tim

Hello
I forced myself to go to HOOTERS tonight for dinner[whistle] [whistle] I talked to the young lady who brought out the wings and asked when do they start getting busy on a Friday night. She replied that 6:45/7:15 anytime after that you may have a wait.
If we meet at Hooters at say 6:00/6:30 is that time good for everyone.
I have to get off the computer Geoffrey has Home work to get done. It's due tomarrow, imagine that :eek:
See Ya in a few days
Chris

That's fine Tim, you just need to sign abour half way down.
The ventilation is the same as last year, doors open. I may try to have fans at the back to pull the soot:D out instead of trying to push it.
How do the other shops deal with the smoke???

Wayne, some run large pipe/ducts off our exhausts to the outside. Other then that maybe a 36" or 48" box fans. You do have covers on your keyboard and computer dont you?:D See you soon. Tim

Chris:

Your times for dinner at "Hooters" on Friday night sounds
good; 6:00-6:30 P.M. We will be there!! I told Dennis I
would contact him at the campground on Friday and Tim
said he will call me via cellphone when he gets in. So,....
lets plan on everybody meeting there!

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Wayne:

You asked about how the other shops remove all the
diesel smoke/soot. ATS Diesel Performance (Denver, Colo.)
and TST Products (Colombus, Ind.) have pretty elaborate
smoke removal systems routing the smoke through actual
metal duct work and then to an exhaust fan outside the
building. I have to wonder what that would cost though!!:o
You can call Clint Cannon at ATS (1-800-949-6002) or Mark
Chapple @ TST (812) 342-6741 and I know they would be
glad to give you details on their systems. One thing I really
like is the fact that my two diesel trucks don't put out much
black smoke!![laugh]

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John_P

John,
Did you put some sort of industrial cleaner/scrubber on your exhaust tips? :D
Just like the big stacks at major companies that produce lots of emissions in the form of smoke, their stacks have the systems that keep the harmful things out of the atmosphere.

grumble, grumble [verymad]

I'm on call this weekend. Not gonna be able to make it. Stupid users... [coffee]

Eskimo-

Come on now jacksonville isn't that far from home, you could make it back in no time. Besides I only live 45 min from Jax and if we start your installs (plate+GSK) early sunday we can still make it to the track before the gates open. You want to test your truck out on the track (the legal way:D [laugh] ;) ) You could always say that your truck broke and you were fixing it. You wouldn't be lying you are fixing what dodge did wrong[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

CRIS

I have checked into some of those MEGA volume exhaust vent systems and boy are they pround of them. For this year we'll just do the fan thing again and next year I'll try and have a better exhaust plan.
A man whose son is coming to the event this weekend called me last night and asked if he could come and take pictures. He has digital equipment that he will bring with him. I told him it was fine with me. He says he can do all kinds of stuff with the pictures.

Originally posted by dynoman

A man whose son is coming to the event this weekend called me last night and asked if he could come and take pictures. He has digital equipment that he will bring with him. I told him it was fine with me. He says he can do all kinds of stuff with the pictures.

He also asked me if it would be OK to take some pictures at the track as well, I told him that DTR had no problem with that at all.

Some of you guys may be able to get some nice pictures of your trucks in action:D he will be printing them out right on the spot.

Tom:

No, I don't use any "industrial cleaner/scrubber" on my
5" chrome exhaust tips!![laugh] Usually just "Windex"
and if they are really nasty some "Soft Scrub" and water.
Surprisingly, they have stayed pretty shiny the last few
years.

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John_P

Originally posted by John_P
Tom:

No, I don't use any "industrial cleaner/scrubber" on my
5" chrome exhaust tips!![laugh] Usually just "Windex"
and if they are really nasty some "Soft Scrub" and water.
Surprisingly, they have stayed pretty shiny the last few
years.

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John_P
I think Tom was refering to the "air and exhaust scrubbers" like we use on the smoke stacks and fume removal stacks at the plant where I work. Ya know,,, the filtering-like-thingies that take all the particles and yucky stuff and turn it into colorless, oderless, make the tree-huggers smile "Happy Air". :rolleyes: [laugh]

I'll bet John P. is the only one who has a fourteen foot long bottle brush for cleaning out the inside of his 4 inch exhaust from the tip to the turbo! [laugh]

Well, I'm still at the pit so it don't look like I'll make this event. This junk still isn't up on line and I've worked for 12 days straight now. Youn's have a good time.

we are loading up and hope to leave in the next 1.5 hours...be at the holiday in express:D

As much as I was looking forward to having soot-filled lungs this weekend, It looks like I won't be able to make it. :( Have fun.

Chris..
I just got my power restored here at home after not having it for two days due to the recent storms.I have emailed the "Fall Brawl" factory correction factors Jetpilot and I used for the show.I will not make it down as I have alot of clean up yet to do due to high winds.I will have my cell on all day if you need me or there are any questions.Hope you all have a nice turnout and a great show.......Andy

Thanks Andy
I printed it off and it will be going with me in the morning. Thanks for getting that information. It sounds pretty straight forward, I will also be taking a calculator. :D
Sorry to hear about the storm, hopefully this will be the only one.
Have a merry Christmas and be careful now that the slippery season is upon you folk up in the Great White North.
See Ya
Chris

Hello
We dynoed 16 trucks on the 4th. Either John or I will have to post the numbers tonight after we get done RACING.

We will all be out at Coastal Plains Raceway Park today at NOON.
It is suppose to be another Beautiful day.

There will be a 711 Hp Duramax out there that will attempt to make a under 12 second run in the 1/4 mile. I seen him do it down in Altanta, that thing is fast

See Ya at the Drag strip.
Chris

Well, the Second Annual N.C. Dyno and Drag Race was a great
event! I know that I certainly had a good time and it was great
to see everyone again and to meet some of the new faces!!
I want to sincerely thank everyone who attended the event
this year and most of all to the guys and gals that came from
out of state, like our fellow DTR group from Virginia!! My thanks
to Wayne Murphy @ "Waynes Dyno and Performance" for
hosting the dyno event and putting up with all the black
smoke,.......ESPECIALLY from our own Tim Barber (Timinva)
who singlehandedly COMPLETELY "blacked out" Waynes
garage with his DonM "Mach 7" EDM Injectors!!!:o It looked
like the building was on fire!!! Thanks also to "Coastal Plains
Raceway" for sponsoring our drag race event today.

Listed are other sponsors and individuals who really helped
make our event a success:

My "partner" Chris Dubie (Thanks Chris for all your help!)
Jess Spruill/Steve Swain (For expenses of trophies)
Robby Yates @ "National Dodge" (For expenses of trophies)
Sanders Ford
Wayne Murphy (Waynes Dyno and Performance)
Coastal Plains Dragway
Tom Goodall (For all the help in recording the dyno numbers)
Thanks Tom!!

Trophies were awarded for high H.P. (dyno) in the following
classes:

STOCK: Rick Dusch 2004 Dodge CTD CR 262 HP/486 TQ

MODIFIED: Buck Spruill 2003 Chevy Duramax 477HP/931 TQ

COMPETITION: Tim Barber 00' Dodge CTD 588HP/1056TQ

UNLIMITED: Buck Spruill 2003 Chevy Duramax 711HP/1238TQ

Congratulations to all the high H.P. dyno winners!
To "break this up" I will post all the dyno numbers on another
post.

Today, we awarded "Lowest E.T. Awards" and "Bracket Racing
Champ" to the following members:

1.) Lowest E.T.-Ford Powerstroke: Jess Spruill
2.) Lowest E.T.-Chevy Duramax: Buck Spruill (11.58@ 118 MPH)
3.) Lowest E.T.-Dodge Cummins Diesel: Tim Barber (13.1 @ 90MPH) Note: Tim let off the gas before he reached the traps![laugh]
4.) Bracket Racing Champ-Geoffery Dubie

My congratulations to all these winners! I did not get all the
times here, so if you guys can post your times that would be
great.

Again, thanks to everyone! One last note,...........we all missed
Chris Dubies' wife (Leigh) very much this year! As most of you
know she is in Iraq with the U.S. Marine Corps and our thoughts
and prayers are with you Leigh!! Our thanks to you and ALL the
troops who are doing an excellent job over there!! See you
soon Leigh!!

If I forgot anybody or missed anything I apologize!

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John_P

Here is a list of all the dyno numbers from "Waynes Dyno
and Performance" on Saturday December 4, 2004:
(I posted the highest numbers recorded.)

NAME TRUCK H.P./TORQUE

1. Tom Goodall (Goodys1Ton) 03' Dodge CTDCR 278/493
2. Tom Wheeler 03' Dodge (Hemi) 285/334
3. J. Porterfield, Jr. (banshee) 04' Dodge CTDCR 554/982
4. Buck Spruill 03' Chevy Duramax 711/1238
5. Jess Spruill 04' Ford PSD 401/697
6. C. Sonnichsen (masonicdodge)95' Dodge CTD 288/669
7. Leigh Dubies Truck 04' Dodge CTD CR 283/586
8. Geoffrey Dubie 91' Ford Ranger (Gas) 73/111
9. Chris Dubie (Papa Smurf) 01' Dodge CTD 427/927
10. Tim Barber (Timinva) 00' Dodge CTD 606/1072
11. Roy King 86' Ford F-150 (Gas) 311/435
12. Brian Buchanan (bbuchanan)01' Dodge CTD 354/688
13. Rick Dusch (Rickd) 04' Dodge CTDCR 403/806
14. Dennis Tway (RATTLINRAM) 99' Dodge CTD 296/618

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John_P

I think a great big thanks should go out to John Porterfield for his efforts as well :) :)

I enjoyed working on this with you, now we need to work on making next year even better. Let's see here how the weekend went.
Hooters on Friday with much BS ing with the fellas.
Dyno runs on Sat with even more BS ing.
Racing on Sun with even more BS ing ( the fields around the drag strip should grow like crazy next year)[laugh] [eyecrazy] [laugh]

I second all of what John said above. I think everyone had a great time, the temps where in the 60/70s so it was great.

I think RickD has a 05 vice a 04 truck.

We had the fastest running Duramaxes on the EAST coast run at this event. Let me set the stage
Ford lighting running mid and lower 13 all day.
Buck ( The Duramax) dials the same time as the lighting. They both take off, the lighting looked slow. He did not even come close to keeping up with the Chevy. The Duramax ran a 11.58 :o :o . I have seen this truck run a few time before and knew it was fast, so I enjoyed listening to the fans standing around that could not believe that a "smelly noisey Diesel beat a lighting that bad. [laugh] [laugh]
Thanks everyone I hope you had as good a time as I did. Of Course watching my son doing burn outs in the water trap with his Mommies dualie and then going on to the finals had alot to do with it.
Dennis
Are you still smiling?? how did the DDIIs do on the pull home?
See Ya
Chris

This event went very well thanks to John and Chris and the many others who helped out. I was very pleased with the dyno event, the first time I was on a dyno, Dec 2003, with stock set up I showed 152 and the rear wheels. After a reflash on the software, I ended up with a 196. Not to bad for an SO truck.
It is amazing what you learn at one of these get togethers, plus seeing the trucks put the numbers up makes one want to bomb some more and hanging out with the Porterfields and the Dubies makes one want to make their trucks smoke, but not like Tim's. I think I still have the smell in my nose, but what a site. You couldn't see day light through the cloud of soot. I just wish I would have had a camera.

Again thanks for putting on one heck of an event, I know the locals like seeing the "Big Trucks" run off the loud imports at the track.

Originally posted by John_P



2.) Lowest E.T.-Chevy Duramax: Buck Spruill (11.58@ 118 MPH)




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John_P [/B] hey john thanks for all you did as well as PapaS .the lowest et on the dmax came during time trials ,it was an 11.48 at 118mph,the 8th was a 7.37 at 95.73.as far as i know i think this just raised(or lowered really) the bar on dmax racing



:D ...it was fun

and on a side note congrats on jeff dubbie for being the last diesel in the field[whistle]

I forgot to thank Jerry Cummings from "Eagle Star Photography"
who came out and took some EXCELLENT photographs of our
trucks at the drag strip, including mine!:) Thanks Jerry!
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Jess:

Sorry for the error on the time for Bucks' Truck and thanks
for correcting it.

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John_P

How about those Chevy's? YEAH!!!!!!!!!

John, Johnner, Chris, Jess, Tome, Wayne, ect...

Thanks to everyone for putting on such a great event. We were blessed with good weather this year. Remember last year? I think a good time was had by all. Heck, I even bettered my best time last year by 3/10ths of a second, even with the clutch slipping and the extra 1000 lbs. on the back end. Maybe by next year I'll have a new clutch and hopefull sneak another mod past the wife and get under 17 seconds. Well, maybe not, but it doesn't hurt to dream.

After Christmas and New Years, how does everyone feel about a get together in Smithfield to eat and BS while the wives shop till they drop?

Had a great time and look forward to doing it again next year.

David

Had a great time at the event. Thanks to everyone who put it together.

I was lucky enough to line up against John for one race, it was fun to watch him cross to the finish line, it's an amazing view from down near the 1/8th mile marker! :D If my truck had I tail I know where it would have been.

The DMAX was beyond words... Seeing a truck with racing slicks on all fours do an 11 something run was awesome.

Thanks also to David and Kim for putting me up for the night.

David:

Thanks for coming down for the event!;) Your idea of meeting
in Smithfield after the holidays to get our NCDTR Chapter
rolling again sounds good!

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Mike:

I want to thank you for coming down too! You are giving
me too much credit on the drag strip though. Heck, if you
installed a TST PM 3, bigger injectors, and an HX-40 you
would have been right with me buddy!

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Jared:

What the heck happened to you guys from Kentucky???:(

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John_P

What's up with all of those slow underpowered Dodges???:D

I want to say THANK YOU to all that came out and dynoed your trucks, even you Tim[yuk] I will be cleaning the walls for a month.

Last year when we did this I thought it was a one time event, but dang if you didn't come back:D I hope you will come here again next year and I promise to have a better ventalation system.

Buck, a 11.48 :o

If anyone has digital pictures or video please e-mail them to me.
wanyesdyno@yahoo.com I want to put them on my website.

Again THANK YOU

I want to thank everyone who was at Wayne's and the dragstrip, this was my first event with all of you and you made me feel like I was part of your FAMILY:) I have never been welcomed in like all of you did for me. Its great to be able to put faces with all those names that I've been talking to over the computer for such a long time. I learned so much this weekend from all of you and you better believe I will never miss an event in the future.

Thanks again for taking me in to your DIESEL family.

CRIS

We had a great time. Finally got home around 9pm last night. Interesting trip back though. My external wastegate started working fine about 10 miles outside Jacksonville but I forgot I had a zip tie holding the boot on the air horn. So I went out to pass some one and at 30 lbs of boost the zip tie broke, that will wake you up from a slumber. Then about a hour from home one of my converter bolts came loose causing a god awfull noise. But all is fixed now. Looking forward to next year already. That 13.1 run was at only 80 mph as I was on the brakes looking for the turn off. I will know next time. I actually was going 85 mph in the 1/8 mile point and only 80 at the 1/4 mile mark so you do the math. Plus the comp was on 3/3 not 5/5. Will be low 12s or better next time I try. It was good to see eveyone again and Wayne sorry about your shop[laugh]. Tim

Finally found time to sit down on the puter for a minute. Left Jacksonville at about 10:30 this morning,,,,, Backed the rig into the driveway at 3:30 and jumped in the Camaro to high-tail it to work for the 4-12 shift. No problems,,,,, just hard to get in a hurry going home. Truck pulled the 5er like a dream and I didn't see any more smoke out of it with the DDII's than I did before.,,,,,,, well,,,,, I didn't look that close. :rolleyes: (Big THANKS to Tim and Johnner for doing the install. The only help they needed from me was to stay out of the way!) [laugh] Thanks Chris, for giving me a chance to try em out. ,,,,now will ya stop pawning this stuff off on me before I get in trouble. :rolleyes: [laugh] Thanks to masonic-dodge for the BHAF heat shield also. :cool: And a REAL BIG THANKS to all you guys that help get this event together. Hopefully Wayne and Coastal Plains will want us back and we can bring even more folks than we had this year.

I'll create a Gallery for posting pics of the event and I'll put the ones I took in there when I get home,,,,,, (they're still in the camera,,, in the truck,,,,,, in the driveway,,,, at home)

North Carolina Dyno & Drags 04 (http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/showgallery.php/cat/531/password/)

Originally posted by Hired Gun
How about those Chevy's? YEAH!!!!!!!!!
So what happened to you Jared? :confused:

Hello
Tim glad to hear you made it home with only minor problems.
Dennis
Glad to hear you like the DDIIs. When I had some folks I work with run the VCR recorder I heard one of them comment " Watch that LITTLE BLUE TRUCK he's pretty fast":eek: [laugh] :eek:

I left the trailer hooked up to the truck in case I needed to come help someone out of a bind.

Next year John and I will have to get started earlier and make this event grow even bigger.
Just a thought but I would like to see that high HP Chevy hook up to a pulling sled. Dyno, racing and sled pulling?????????? Maybe
I see new clutchand a bigger set of injectors and maybe something else Oh yeah
It was great seeing every one and metting new folks.
I had a great weekend and hope you did as well.
See Ya
Chris

Sounds like everyone had a good time. Finally got off those horrible hours and now am sick. Going to the Dr this morning. Too worn down I guess, need some pills.

Rattlin I was praying to the gods of toilet water. My school has had a terrible virus in the past two weeks. Kids are out for 4 to 6 days with it. So I ended up with it on Thursday morning, and did not feel like living until Saturday afternoon.

Wish I could have been there. On a good not I was glad to see that all who attended had a great time. Thanks for the Invite fellas.

Hope ya feel better Jared,,
You need to come next time,,,,, I think Jess and Buck can give ya some pointers on how to get a few more ponies out of that dually! :D

Dennis-

I just wanted to tell you when you put the heatshield on take a large rubber cap, about 3/8 dia and put it on top of your shock, it will keep it from RATTLIN[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] When I get some more made (thicker ones) I'll send you a new one up. By the way the studs in your fenderwell for the HS are the same size as the screws in my AFC houseing (6x10mm) Hey check out my Profile and see what we have in common.

Keep in touch.

CRIS

I've posted some of the pics I took and will put some more up after I've resized them. Please post any that you may have taken also.
You can find the Gallery by looking HERE (http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/showgallery.php/cat/531/password/) If you have any problems uploading pics or if you want some moved from your personal Gallery to the Dyno & Drags event gallery,,,,, just drop me a PM.

Papa Smurf,
Are you going to put those videos together or have to where you can make some copies?

I feel much better. Thanks. Ya I need a few more ponies. Not satisfied with 440. Need more power. Aw ha ya ha!!!!!

Originally posted by masonic-dodge
Dennis-
Hey check out my Profile and see what we have in common.
CRIS

FAR OUT!,,,,,,,,,,,,,, another "Goundhog Baby" [laugh] :D

Looks like all had fun and enjoyed the event,sorry I missed it.Chris,I guess the numbers were ok since I didn't get any calls?.I can't believe all you big HP guys got outbracket raced by a 73hp Ranger,whats up with that.Hmmmm,sounds like maybe some lessons on how to NOT run out are in order,LOL :D [laugh] .

While we are at it all the numbers look very impressive and a D-Max with huge amounts of juice over 700,I am impressed.Whats up with JP not posting the Red Rockets numbers for us to see,stealth mode???.Good thing the phone rang and I got it anyway,LOL.

dynoman...
Having a exhaust problem sucks and makes a HUGE mess of the dyno shop walls along with all who are inside.After our show up here it took me two weeks of being sick to get my lungs cleared out and the shop we roll at has a very elaborate exhaust system.Ernie had his engineer there on Sundy of our show so he could see first hand what we did so they could devise a way to dyno the trucks equipped with stacks.Well since then the amount to build a second system for the "stack only" guys was deemed outrageous,with good measure.

What Kauffmans does is use a long piece of 5" flex pipe and slips a piece of nomex over the ehaust tips to which they slide the pipe on it,routed outside.They have a small strap on it and attach it to the underside of the truck and may at times even have to hold the pipe in place for the higher HP trucks.The majority of the smoke in that configuration,about 90% of it,goes to the outside to the rear,the rest is exhausted thru the roof via Ernies huge ceiling fan.I'll try and find a pic or two for you and put it here tommorrow.If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

Chris...
Let me know if you would like a hand setting this up next year and I'll make myself available......Andy

Andy:

Thanks for the input! I know Wayne will appreciate it. You asked about the "Red
Ram's" numbers. I blew the base gasket out at the manifold for the external
exhaust wastegate on Friday. But, I did run earlier last week on a Mustang
MD-750 Dyno @ "AutoFX Motorsports" in Wilmington and put down 674 H.P.
(uncorrected). It will get better,......we have some more "tuning" to do.

Have a great Christmas Andy!;)

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John_P

Andy, any pointers you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I knew I could get a flex pipe to channel the exhaust out but I also knew it would stratch the tips. The nomex is a good idea and it will be used. Thank You for the tip. The cleaning continues:(

Hello

Andy
Thanks for all the information. Geoffrey (my son) was racing his mom's truck, he was running 16.1/16.4 pretty much every run he made. Leigh Ann is still over in Iraq.

We had a pretty good turn out and a good time was had by all. Yes we plan on haveing this again next year. Any pointers and lessons learned would be great. One day it may be as big a event as the FALL BRAWL. Thanks for the help this year.

The Chevy's put on quite a show bot5h at the dyno and at the drag way.:D Maybe next year.

See Ya
Chris

Geoffrey (my son) was racing his mom's truck, he was running 16.1/16.4 pretty much every run he made.

Don't let Chris play it down... he was knocking those times out. How about a 16.012 on a 16.00 dial in :o

John

I think Geoffrey was hitting the "Resume" button on the cruise control every time the light went green because I think he had about three runs in the 16.0's! [laugh]
,,,,,,,,,,,, Oh yeah,,,,,,, If it wasn't bad enough that Johnner smoked me with the 6 speed in the "heads up test & tune" this year,,,,,,,,,,,,, he turned around and run me down with his Dad's truck in eliminations. :rolleyes: [laugh] I was still happy with the way the "Cute Little Blue Truck" ran. :D

We still need anyone who took pics of those two days to post them in the Gallery under
DTR Chapters >> NC Dyno & Drags (http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/showgallery.php/cat/531/password/)

Dennis:

Thanks for all the pictures you took at the event!!;)

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John_P

Hey PapaSmurf see my post in the 3rd Gen performance Forum, that "fast little blue truck" is the fastest 3rd gen in the world right now
:D

Thanks CMNS_gal_4x4.
I read through the post that's some pretty good numbers.
My truck is limited to me not being able to shift fast enough.

The SHIFTLESS FOLKS[eyecrazy] :cool: :D [eyecrazy] just sit there with there foot trying to push through the floor boards[eyecrazy] [laugh] and wait for the finish line.:p :p
Ain't that right John and Tim.

Happy holidays, stay safe out there on the big road.
See Ya
Chris

looks like you guys had a really nice turn out, awesome pics as well.

bummer i couldnt make it, duty calls ya know:cool:

trying to get home the last part of january, any possible meets then?

not to the thread or get off subject, but the s10 is coming along great and will pull hard for the next event for you dodge folks out there, [eyecrazy]