2500 vs 3500...?
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2500 vs 3500...?
Well I wanted a 3500 but they are getting harder to find. I have a 8500 fiver and pull it about 12-15 times a year. Pin weighs about 1600 pounds.
I understand the 3500 has those double helper springs and the 2500 dont. Also think the tires are different on the 3500. Anything else?? I two with a 3/4 ton truck now.
I understand the 3500 has those double helper springs and the 2500 dont. Also think the tires are different on the 3500. Anything else?? I two with a 3/4 ton truck now.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
On the Dually 3500 the tires are narrower than the off road tires in order to fit under the wheel well and not touch each other. The other difference is the rear end on the 3500's are 11.5" verses (don't quote me) 10.5" rear end and yes the 3500's do in fact have the extra helper springs.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
Stevenc,
It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. They both have the same 11.5 inch rearend and the same load range E tires. But if you have a SO auto in the 2500 then it will have the 10.5 inch rear end. All DRW 3500 have the 11.5 rearend but have narrower tires.
If you have a fiver with a 1600 pin weight you need at least the 3500 SRW to tow it legally. The 2500 has more than enough towing capacity but it does have the needed payload capacity. Hope this helps.
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It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. They both have the same 11.5 inch rearend and the same load range E tires. But if you have a SO auto in the 2500 then it will have the 10.5 inch rear end. All DRW 3500 have the 11.5 rearend but have narrower tires.
If you have a fiver with a 1600 pin weight you need at least the 3500 SRW to tow it legally. The 2500 has more than enough towing capacity but it does have the needed payload capacity. Hope this helps.
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08-01-2003, 10:39 AM
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
[quote author=The Boss Hog link=board=17;threadid=17812;start=0#msg166821 date=1059738117]
Stevenc,
It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. [/quote]
I also understand (though havent verified personally) that the brake calipers are bigger on the 3500 SRW, since stopping power is part of the GVWR advantage of the 3500. Also, the main springs are different as well as the overloads. compared to the 2500 main/overload system, the 3500 main springs are softer, but the overload springs are stiffer. nicer ride, heavier payload, heavier brakes. what an animal.
Stevenc,
It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. [/quote]
I also understand (though havent verified personally) that the brake calipers are bigger on the 3500 SRW, since stopping power is part of the GVWR advantage of the 3500. Also, the main springs are different as well as the overloads. compared to the 2500 main/overload system, the 3500 main springs are softer, but the overload springs are stiffer. nicer ride, heavier payload, heavier brakes. what an animal.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
[quote author=Stevenc link=board=17;threadid=17812;start=0#msg166676 date=1059700600]
Well I wanted a 3500 but they are getting harder to find. I have a 8500 fiver and pull it about 12-15 times a year. Pin weighs about 1600 pounds.
I understand the 3500 has those double helper springs and the 2500 dont. Also think the tires are different on the 3500. Anything else?? I two with a 3/4 ton truck now.
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Check with CumminsLuke, he said he had a few of them on his lot, and the price looked very good. If you're going to pull a fiver, get the DRW - the more you tow with it in wind, the more you will appreciate the extra stability the DRW gives.
Well I wanted a 3500 but they are getting harder to find. I have a 8500 fiver and pull it about 12-15 times a year. Pin weighs about 1600 pounds.
I understand the 3500 has those double helper springs and the 2500 dont. Also think the tires are different on the 3500. Anything else?? I two with a 3/4 ton truck now.
[/quote]
Check with CumminsLuke, he said he had a few of them on his lot, and the price looked very good. If you're going to pull a fiver, get the DRW - the more you tow with it in wind, the more you will appreciate the extra stability the DRW gives.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
Doug,
I agree it is an animal but I would like to clearify the "rumor" about the differences in the brakes. There is absolutely no differences in the brakes, front or rear, between a SRW 3500 and a 2500. The only difference on a DRW 3500 is the size of the rear brake pistons (2 x 2.01 vs. 2 X 1.77).
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/p...IFICATIONS.pdf
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I agree it is an animal but I would like to clearify the "rumor" about the differences in the brakes. There is absolutely no differences in the brakes, front or rear, between a SRW 3500 and a 2500. The only difference on a DRW 3500 is the size of the rear brake pistons (2 x 2.01 vs. 2 X 1.77).
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/p...IFICATIONS.pdf
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
[quote author=The Boss Hog link=board=17;threadid=17812;start=0#msg166821 date=1059738117]
Stevenc,
It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. They both have the same 11.5 inch rearend and the same load range E tires. But if you have a SO auto in the 2500 then it will have the 10.5 inch rear end. All DRW 3500 have the 11.5 rearend but have narrower tires.
If you have a fiver with a 1600 pin weight you need at least the 3500 SRW to tow it legally. The 2500 has more than enough towing capacity but it does have the needed payload capacity. Hope this helps.
The Boss Hog
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Boss Hog, I hate to disagree, but according to DC data the rearends on the 2500 & 3500 are in fact different sizes. Just take a look at Dodge's web site for building one & also take a look at the service manual for the trucks.
Stevenc,
It depends on which 3500 you are comparing to which 2500. For example, the only difference between a 2500 CTD manual and a 3500 SRW is the overload springs and the little yellow lights on the cap. They both have the same 11.5 inch rearend and the same load range E tires. But if you have a SO auto in the 2500 then it will have the 10.5 inch rear end. All DRW 3500 have the 11.5 rearend but have narrower tires.
If you have a fiver with a 1600 pin weight you need at least the 3500 SRW to tow it legally. The 2500 has more than enough towing capacity but it does have the needed payload capacity. Hope this helps.
The Boss Hog
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)[/quote]
Boss Hog, I hate to disagree, but according to DC data the rearends on the 2500 & 3500 are in fact different sizes. Just take a look at Dodge's web site for building one & also take a look at the service manual for the trucks.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
SuperGewl,
. . . .
. . . . ??? . . . . :P
I hate it when that happens . . . Dodge screwed up and put a 11.5 rearend in my 2500
. I have attached a scan of my window sticker so you can see their mistake.
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. . . .
. . . . ??? . . . . :PI hate it when that happens . . . Dodge screwed up and put a 11.5 rearend in my 2500
. I have attached a scan of my window sticker so you can see their mistake.The Boss Hog
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
[quote author=The Boss Hog link=board=17;threadid=17812;start=0#msg167443 date=1059863117]
SuperGewl,
. . . . . . . . ??? . . . . :P
I hate it when that happens . . . Dodge screwed up and put a 11.5 rearend in my 2500 . I have attached a scan of my window sticker so you can see their mistake.
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IF the 11.5 is the biggest offered for ANY '03 Dodge truck, and that's what you got, *I* sure don't see any problem... ??? ???
Or did you want a SMALLER one? ;D ;D
SuperGewl,
. . . .
. . . . ??? . . . . :PI hate it when that happens . . . Dodge screwed up and put a 11.5 rearend in my 2500
. I have attached a scan of my window sticker so you can see their mistake.The Boss Hog
(?)
[/quote]
IF the 11.5 is the biggest offered for ANY '03 Dodge truck, and that's what you got, *I* sure don't see any problem... ??? ???
Or did you want a SMALLER one?
;D ;D
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I'm looking to get a diesel and am currently intrested in the 3500. I've got a couple questions because when I go thru the Dodge website to build one it's not clear cut.
1. Can the 3500 be had with SRW? I don't ever remember seeing a 3500 that was not a Dully.
2. What option cause a vehicle to come with the lights (Clearance lights) on top of the cab? I don't want them so I want to make sure if I order, I don't end up with them because of something like the Light group.
Thanks!!
1. Can the 3500 be had with SRW? I don't ever remember seeing a 3500 that was not a Dully.
2. What option cause a vehicle to come with the lights (Clearance lights) on top of the cab? I don't want them so I want to make sure if I order, I don't end up with them because of something like the Light group.
Thanks!!
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
CrabJoe,
Yes, you can get a SRW 3500. Lots of guys on this forum have them. That being said, it appears Dodge has changed their web site build page since I ordered my truck. It now looks like the SRW is standard when you get the short bed (9900 GVWR) and the DRW is standard on the long bed (11000 GVRW). The DRW use to be standard on all 3500's but you could select option AR9 which was the SRW option. I don't see that option listed anymore for the long bed ???.
As for the clearance lights, they are standard on all 3500's and are an option (LNC) on the 2500's. That's one of the reasons I went for a 2500 (and the fact that I still got my 11.5 rearend ;D). Hope this helps a little.
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Yes, you can get a SRW 3500. Lots of guys on this forum have them. That being said, it appears Dodge has changed their web site build page since I ordered my truck. It now looks like the SRW is standard when you get the short bed (9900 GVWR) and the DRW is standard on the long bed (11000 GVRW). The DRW use to be standard on all 3500's but you could select option AR9 which was the SRW option. I don't see that option listed anymore for the long bed ???.
As for the clearance lights, they are standard on all 3500's and are an option (LNC) on the 2500's. That's one of the reasons I went for a 2500 (and the fact that I still got my 11.5 rearend ;D). Hope this helps a little.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
Well I'am going to side in with Boss Hog on the diff size. My 2500 HO came for certain with a 11.5". I wanted a 3500 reg cab long box. But they don't make one. So upon research I discovered my 2500 reg cab has close to the same payload capacity as the 3500 Quad. Pete
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
This site might help to clear things up,
http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/SD7...43987,00.html?
Hope I did this right.
http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/SD7...43987,00.html?
Hope I did this right.
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Re:2500 vs 3500...?
[quote author=The Boss Hog link=board=17;threadid=17812;start=0#msg167186 date=1059783314]
Doug,
I agree it is an animal but I would like to clearify the "rumor" about the differences in the brakes. There is absolutely no differences in the brakes, front or rear, between a SRW 3500 and a 2500. The only difference on a DRW 3500 is the size of the rear brake pistons (2 x 2.01 vs. 2 X 1.77).
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thought so. what I said came from Dean upson over on the TDR. I've asked him to point me to his source, as all my research agrees with you so far.
Doug,
I agree it is an animal but I would like to clearify the "rumor" about the differences in the brakes. There is absolutely no differences in the brakes, front or rear, between a SRW 3500 and a 2500. The only difference on a DRW 3500 is the size of the rear brake pistons (2 x 2.01 vs. 2 X 1.77).
[/quote]
thought so. what I said came from Dean upson over on the TDR. I've asked him to point me to his source, as all my research agrees with you so far.