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Icyman
07-23-2011, 05:47 AM
I picked up my 2011.5 3500 CC DRW this week from a dealer 300+ miles from me. I got into a long conversation about doing deletes, pros and cons. These are the Service Manager's cons:

1. The new computer system can detect the attachment of a tuner and knows how many ignition starts since it's removal.
2. The dealer's computer diagnostic system is live with dodge thus warrantee void.
3. If the dealer does a favor for the customer and doesn't hook up said system then later another dealer does, dodge will back charge first dealer for warrantee work.
4. Only the drivetrain warrantee would be voided.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? No speculation please.

I wouldn't want to delete then undelete for warrantee coverage only to find I've been punked. It's better to know exactly what we're losing with deletes.

Spooler
07-23-2011, 07:11 AM
If you delete. Expect to pay for everything. Your warranty will be gone. It's just the way it is.

RobG
07-23-2011, 11:20 PM
Does MADS have a Smarty for the new trucks yet? I'm wondering if it's still as undetectable as it's supposed to be on the third-gens.

Rob

Spooler
07-23-2011, 11:49 PM
Yes, they do have a 4th Gen Smarty but, it is detectable. They have said it many times.

RobG
07-24-2011, 12:03 AM
What a shame. This is enough to keep me from ever buying one. And here I was looking forward to a new 2012 this fall.

I'm fine with leaving it stock, power-wise... but the DPF would have to go. And there's simply NO excuse for them to void the powertrain warranty over that.

So F 'em. They can keep their trucks. My '05 still has a LOT of life left in it.

Rob

djcheez
07-24-2011, 11:35 AM
What a shame. This is enough to keep me from ever buying one. And here I was looking forward to a new 2012 this fall.

I'm fine with leaving it stock, power-wise... but the DPF would have to go. And there's simply NO excuse for them to void the powertrain warranty over that.

So F 'em. They can keep their trucks. My '05 still has a LOT of life left in it.

Rob
none of the tuners are undecectable. you wont get far taking off your dpf and doing nothing else.
There are plenty of excuses for voiding the warranty whether you like it or not. Keep it 100% stock or risk being your own warranty shop. Or just keep that old 05 turd [laugh]

Rednecktastic
07-25-2011, 10:40 AM
Put a few thousand miles on it stock, if nothing major breaks then I wouldn't worry too much with the drivetrain warranty.

BigIron70
07-25-2011, 10:55 AM
Most failures on the 6.7 are related to emissions or contaminated fuel. If you get fuel contamination most times covered by auto insurance policy. Putting gasolene in your tank is another story that can cost $$$ if you drive it away from the pump.

Icyman
07-25-2011, 11:17 AM
Put a few thousand miles on it stock, if nothing major breaks then I wouldn't worry too much with the drivetrain warranty.

For me personally, I was thinking that getting through the bumper to bumper part first might be a good idea as all that crap attached to the cummins is usually the issue, I think it's the parts call a "Dodge".[laugh] Our other trucks are 5.9's and never a drivetrain issue until after 100k.

bigdad
07-25-2011, 11:32 AM
i was thinking of a new dodge cummins, i'll keep my 03 thanks and spend $$$$o on it.

ARTL
07-25-2011, 04:51 PM
I love my 2011, and would not want to go back to a 3 gen again, so much more truck then the 3rd gens ever were.

J BODY
07-26-2011, 04:50 PM
I love my 2011, and would not want to go back to a 3 gen again, so much more truck then the 3rd gens ever were.


I hate to agree... but I agree with this statement!

xp8103
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
I hate to agree... but I agree with this statement!

Try going from a 2nd gen to a 4th and you'll REALLY see (and feel) the difference)

[coffee][coffee][coffee]

Blake Clark
07-27-2011, 01:22 PM
Try going from a 2nd gen to a 4th and you'll REALLY see (and feel) the difference)

[coffee][coffee][coffee]

I know what you mean, Dad aint stopped smilin about his yet...




Still has the 2nd though. Never have too many Cummins.

ranchertx
07-27-2011, 01:46 PM
I hate to agree... but I agree with this statement!

Have to third the statement....these gen 4 trucks are MUCH nicer.

I have to say I think the Gen 2 trucks were nicer than the Gen 3's.

Icyman
07-27-2011, 06:47 PM
Oh, without a doubt, this 2011 HO is the nicest truck I've ever owed. It's quiet with very little diesel odor, a definite plus. But what happens at the pump is bad enough to make a grown man cry.