After seeing D.wiggs truck I am thinking 22.5, practically 19.5"s make more sense, but **** 22.5"s look good. Power is not a problem but occasionally I tow a bobcat and a massey ferguson tractor,(sp?). Anyway largest load is 14K, and fuel economy is not an issue as my wife drives are Grand Cherokee SRT-8 everyday which maxes at around 13mpg and is wicked fast. I dont plan any lift and will leave it stock height. Looking for some real opinions chime in cause I cant make up my mind. Thanks RYE...

After seeing D.wiggs truck I am thinking 22.5, practically 19.5"s make more sense, but **** 22.5"s look good. Power is not a problem but occasionally I tow a bobcat and a massey ferguson tractor,(sp?). Anyway largest load is 14K, and fuel economy is not an issue as my wife drives are Grand Cherokee SRT-8 everyday which maxes at around 13mpg and is wicked fast. I dont plan any lift and will leave it stock height. Looking for some real opinions chime in cause I cant make up my mind. Thanks RYE...

To me, 22.5s are the only way to go. I have seen 3rd gens with both and to me 19.5s just don't look the part. Even before bombing the hell out of my rig, I loved the 22.5s on the stock truck.

Which ever you like the best... If it was up to me, I would get 19.5's. That's just what I like though.
Good luck!

Rubber might be a little cheaper on the 19.5's, IMO the 22.5's (or cut down to 22's) are the way to fly.

There is a guy here locally in a GMC on 24" big rig rims. It is a head turner, that is fore sure!

Which ever you like the best... If it was up to me, I would get 19.5's. That's just what I like though.
Good luck!



I totally agree. I thought I was the only guy on this board that thought the 22.5'' wheels were JUST TO BIG. I love both JD Dearden's and D.Wiggs' trucks
but the 22.5'' wheels actually take away from the looks of the truck, imo.

The bigger wheels makes a truck look....I hate to say it.....but sorta Ghetto. But the good thing is we all have different tastes and opinions and we are free to choose.

If I find the need to go to a heavier rated tire (G rated or so) I would look at 19.5'' wheels/tires from Rickson.

My '98 has Ricksons (see Avatar) and I have had/used them for over 200K during the period when the truck was used for Hotshot work.

With up to a 10 ton load, I got about 100,00 miles of tire life if I rotated every 5 or 6 oil changes, while the stock 16s had to be rotated every oil change to get over 20K life, and if rotated could get perhaps 30K tire life MAX.

I have not altered the ride height, so the largest tire the 2WD 3/4 ton can handle on the front is 225/70/R19.5's (load rated F) but the wheels will take 275's if needed.

19.5 's:cool:

I have a set of 37 pro-comps and I invested in a set of 22.5 from cromewheel with adp and all the goodies.Invested 5000 put them on and the way my truck is set up for off road just does not cut it less than 10 miles on them, same ride as my 37 with the right air pressure just don't like the looks going back to 37's because of the width.Will sell complete set everything,complete,my lost sombody's gain for $3000. Will not ship can have picked up are arrange shipping.But at this price could pick up and still save..Have hard time posting on this site, so e-mail me at lmarceaux1@gt.rr.com

I have a set of 37 pro-comps and I invested in a set of 22.5 from cromewheel with adp and all the goodies.Invested 5000 put them on and the way my truck is set up for off road just does not cut it less than 10 miles on them, same ride as my 37 with the right air pressure just don't like the looks going back to 37's because of the width.Will sell complete set everything,complete,my lost sombody's gain for $3000. Will not ship can have picked up are arrange shipping.But at this price could pick up and still save..Have hard time posting on this site, so e-mail me at lmarceaux1@gt.rr.com

You do know that it is quite likely we will be able to get a 295/60/22.5 from Bridgestone that is the same as the 255/70/22.5 traction tires but much wider like running the 37s!! You might not want to sell just yet!

Yea this is what I have heard and read but if someone comes up with the 3k, well see ya.Thank you anyway.

Cajon,

Got any pics? Where in Texas? I am interested in the wheels. chrisnussel@yahoo.com

Might want to just check the classifieds, they are posted there. ;)

24.5's are the way to go.....

24.5's are the way to go.....

Thats not one of the choices!! You'll have D. Wiggs out dropping a cool $6,000 to get 24 1/2's now.............[laugh] [coffee]

Thats not one of the choices!! You'll have D. Wiggs out dropping a cool $6,000 to get 24 1/2's now.............[laugh] [coffee]

LOL If so I'll buy your worn out 22.5 wheel/tires!!!![laugh]

HAHAHAHA!!! I would have done 24.5s but the wheels wells on these trucks are TOO small. I mean, a heavy duty truck like ours should be able to run 40" tires NO SWEAT, which is about the smallest you will ever find a 24.5" tire to be!

How tall are your tires?

How tall are your tires?

36.9" tall

Went by a local tire shop in woodbridge va, they have a guy that works there that has 24.5" rims on his F-350 dually. But it is a show truck and has what looks to be low profile type tires as the truck is a 2wd so it looks lowered or it is a lowered 4x4. Didnt take alot of time to look at it as I was in a hurry but I may have to ride by and snap a pic when I have more time. Not the way I would do it as I think larger tires look better but was an eye catcher.

There are 19 posts in this thread, not a soul has mentioned driveability with the various sizes.

My 19.5's ride stiffer with the F load rated tires and stiffer sidewalls (doesn't matter how the airbags are adjusted) and my power steering pump groans a lot more than it did with stock wheel/tire sizes when turning. The truck is not nearly as responsive to steering input (sure couldn't autocross it!!) than stock.

I can only imagine what the 22.5 and 24.5's do!

The positives - - tire life more than tripled!! It does look better with the larger wheel/tire combo. But I logged 142,000 miles last year in my trucks, so looks were certainly not the primary concern. The larger tire simply worked better and handled the loads I was hauling far better than the stock wheel and LT tires.

So I guess it depends on whether you work your truck or not (or are willing to put up with the harsher characteristics of the bigger tire while pretending to be a work truck)

I think for the money the 22.5 are a better buy due to the fact that the tires will almost out last the truck. I have a set on my Mega cab and love the way the look and handle on the road. The place I got mine has tons of photos on their website you may want to go look and see what the 19.5" and the 22.5" look like on different trucks. The place is call theduallystop.com

I have not noticed any difference in steering except for a little bit stiffer on the highway (which I like). Also, if you saw a lowered F-350, what they did is shave the 24.5s down to 24s and run a standard 24" SUV tire. It is very comon in Florida these days to see duallies lowered and running a setup like this.

My '98 has Ricksons (see Avatar) and I have had/used them for over 200K during the period when the truck was used for Hotshot work.

With up to a 10 ton load, I got about 100,00 miles of tire life if I rotated every 5 or 6 oil changes, while the stock 16s had to be rotated every oil change to get over 20K life, and if rotated could get perhaps 30K tire life MAX.

I have not altered the ride height, so the largest tire the 2WD 3/4 ton can handle on the front is 225/70/R19.5's (load rated F) but the wheels will take 275's if needed.

You had something wrong or bad tires. I pulled 30,00 gross and with Michelen xps rib tires got over 100,000. And I NEVER rotate.

I have not noticed any difference in steering except for a little bit stiffer on the highway (which I like). Also, if you saw a lowered F-350, what they did is shave the 24.5s down to 24s and run a standard 24" SUV tire. It is very comon in Florida these days to see duallies lowered and running a setup like this.

Mr Wiggs, you have no idea what you are talking about. The .5 sizes are the tubeless designation with a completely different bead. 20 inch wheels are made, thay use the regular car bead. They are not shaved truck wheels.

You had something wrong or bad tires. I pulled 30,00 gross and with Michelen xps rib tires got over 100,000. And I NEVER rotate.

You must have had a duallie with 5th wheel??

Here is a photo of my '98 with camper (before I retired it from service and started my "project"). It is a 3/4 ton (remember - - these are single axle!) with airbags and overloads, etc. This photo was taken prior to putting the 19.5 Ricksons on, but it is this truck and camper - with the trailer pictured below - that is being discussed.

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/medium/Before.JPG

Now, here's a picture of the entire rig (this is with the '05, but it is the same trailer setup as I used with the 98 and Ricksons).

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/medium/Boxster.jpg

Now that you know what is being discussed, let's start with the back tires. I had the camper weight, plus tongue weight of the trailer on them. Not abnormal by any means, except that this is a tag trailer - - not a 5th wheel. The trailer has cabinets and a generator box in the front - the generator is an Onan 7500 Gold Marquis (not light). The cabinets contain a large Marine battery, an 8500lb Warn winch, an air compressor, a toolchest full of hand tools, and other "stuff" (equipment that one needs thousands of miles from home trying to recover a car from God knows where). There is also a large ATP toolbox on the floor that contains various tiedowns, etc, Additionally, in a compartment under the floor there is a trailer spare, snow chains for all truck/trailer wheels, and tire changing tools.

In other words, I had terrific tongue weight!! Empty this rig towed like a pig with the '98, but when I had a car and a couple motorcycles in it, it rode quite nicely (and I wasn't empty very much or for very long).

With a weight distributing setup (a must have) the front 19.5 tires tended to cup and the rear 19.5's tended to wear faster than the front - if I didn't rotate. Not nearly as often as the 16's by any stretch of the imagination (as indicated in my posts) but rotation was still a necessity to get maximum tire life.

Trust me, if I didn't need to rotate, I would not have - -

G

I have looked at the 19.5" and to me besides the classic pattern they dont look different enough to spend the money. I have a dually so the issue of overloading the sidewall of a standard tire as opposed to a commercial tire is not as big a deal as with the srw trucks. I tow when I need to as I am a contractor and have no idea what the next job will bring as far as material and weight. I just want my truck to look better stand out and if I need to load the heck out of my trailers, pull a bobcat or two, or whatever be able to do so with no worries. The Rickson 19.5"s are real nice, but why so expensive? There are very nice well known rims for less. Again if Im going to spend 4-6K on tires I want people to notice them. At the same time the issues with the power steering may be a deterent from 22.5"s. At the moment I am leaning toward 22.5", and I guess I need to talk to some people that have them, tow with them and get some real world advice frome people that have them.

I can tell you anything you need to know.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/medium/JD_s_Dodge_001.jpg

There are very nice well known rims for less. Can you post some links? I want to get some 19.5 tires, but will not spend the money that Rickson wants for their stuff.

Try- theduallystop.com, or do a search D.Wiggs posted where he got his in one of his posts.

Mr Wiggs, you have no idea what you are talking about. The .5 sizes are the tubeless designation with a completely different bead. 20 inch wheels are made, thay use the regular car bead. They are not shaved truck wheels.

OK. I am going to speak (i.e., type) very slowly and clearly so there is no confusion. What many companies do (e.g., American Force Wheels) is take a 22.5 or 24.5 TRUCK Alcoa wheel and shave it down to a 22" or 24" so that they can run a regular, low-profile SUV tire. This is because neither the wheels nor tires could handle commericial use but are capable of light truck duty.

Here is the link since you seem to be in the dark: http://www.americanforcewheels.com/lopro_info.html

They even allow you to put on "all-terrain" tires such as the 37" Mud Grappler designed for 24" rims. Amazoing how they offer so much for something that does not exist! [duhhh] [duhhh] [laugh]

Please do not ever claim to have a clue as to what I do or do not have an idea about, for you are attempting to argue with someone who will not only make you support your claims, but will complete refute and eliminate the ones that cannot "hold water" (viz. the aforementioned one in this post). There is no read to get "snippy" and start insulting; it's immature.

I hope this clears up any confusion on this very simple matter.

I got my wheels from American Force Wheels (www.americanforcewheels.com) and they were fantastic. I had them 2 days after I ordered them.

JD: We NEED to get the trucks together. I want to hear those stacks!

LOL I love this site [laugh] I have bought 2 set of wheels from theduallystop.com and both are 22.5 Big Rig Alcoa wheels & tires with the on/off road tires.. These are the best riding tires I have ever owned!Since I live in Dallas,TX I tend to see more and more 22.5 on duallys so I sold my 22.5"s today and placed an order with David@theduallyshop for some 24"Shaved Alcoa Design wheels with a LT315/50R24 Nitto Terra Grappler..Here is photo of the new 24" shaved wheel!


http://theduallystop.com/store/images/AMFC10constitution.jpg

BUT WAIT!!! You cannot buy that wheel!! IT DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

[QUOTE=tx4x4er;1162556]LOL I love this site [laugh] I have bought 2 set of wheels from theduallystop.com and both are 22.5 Big Rig Alcoa wheels & tires with the on/off road tires.. These are the best riding tires I have ever owned!Since I live in Dallas,TX I tend to see more and more 22.5 on duallys so I sold my 22.5"s today and placed an order with David@theduallyshop for some 24"Shaved Alcoa Design wheels with a LT315/50R24 Nitto Terra Grappler..Here is photo of the new 24" shaved wheel!


http://theduallystop.com/store/images/AMFC10constitution.jpg

Photo of 24" Shaved wheels

http://www.chromewheel.com/images/Picture_145.jpg

Very nice. What kind of load capacity do those tires have versus the stockers.

Very nice. What kind of load capacity do those tires have versus the stockers.

The are a 8 ply tires.. on the low profiles.

post more pics please preferrable ,19.5's as these are the ones i am considering

Anyone have or see a SRW with 22.5's?

Anyone have or see a SRW with 22.5's?
A guy sold a set in the classifeds here about a month ago (cheap, cheap too).

I think he was wanting $2,000 for them basicaly new. I tried to wheel and deal to no avail.

Nice looking set too, would dress up just about any truck.:cool:

I got my wheels from American Force Wheels (www.americanforcewheels.com) and they were fantastic. I had them 2 days after I ordered them.

JD: We NEED to get the trucks together. I want to hear those stacks!

Ya that would be fun can you imagine what there kids would look like.

Yep I guess you are right, about as right as saying you shave a tree down to make a house. They use new Alcoa cores and machine a completely different wheel. In doing so the strength is removed and they are only capabile of one ton use. The end product is not big truck wheels. Just big wheels.

Did you not read what I wrote? THEY TAKE A 22.5" ALCOA WHEEL AND MACHINE IS DOWN TO A 22" WHEEL CAPABLE OF RUNNING AN SUV TIRE!!! I never claimed that they remained a "big rig wheel", only that they started out as one. Also, they are only a "completely different wheel" if one of your criterion for "completely different wheel status" is any dimension change to the wheel, for it is the same wheel, just 1/2" less in diameter.

No sense in "Wigging" out over it. :rolleyes:

No sense in "Wigging" out over it. :rolleyes:

De-Wigging as we speak! [laugh] [laugh] [whistle]

Did you not read what I wrote? THEY TAKE A 22.5" ALCOA WHEEL AND MACHINE IS DOWN TO A 22" WHEEL CAPABLE OF RUNNING AN SUV TIRE!!! I never claimed that they remained a "big rig wheel", only that they started out as one. Also, they are only a "completely different wheel" if one of your criterion for "completely different wheel status" is any dimension change to the wheel, for it is the same wheel, just 1/2" less in diameter.

Whatever, a little more complicated than that. It is a bit more than a diameter change. You said, just shave them down 1/2 inch.

PJ, not trying to "wiggle" out of anything. I personally could care less if he disagrees. The diameter is a small part of it.

PJ, not trying to "wiggle" out of anything. I personally could care less if he disagrees. The diameter is a small part of it.
You misundersood buddy, "Whigging" is a suburban ghetto slang term for getting upset.
I was using it as a slight put down and "play on" user ID of Mr. D.Wiggs for being snippy with you.

I could care less if either of you agree, disagree, agree to disagree or whatever.:)

post more pics please preferrable ,19.5's as these are the ones i am considering

Here is a link to find more of the 19.5 wheels
http://theduallystop.com/store/photos.php

I don't know much about the Super Singles for SRW But recall seein them on their site. I know they have a 22" and a 22.5" singles I think they run like $2799 for just wheels and adaptors. Hope this helps.

i have a set of motto 20 inch rims with nitto terra grappler 325/60 20 on ebay right now if anyone is interested??http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=220036520907&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

You misundersood buddy, "Whigging" is a suburban ghetto slang term for getting upset.
I was using it as a slight put down and "play on" user ID of Mr. D.Wiggs for being snippy with you.

I could care less if either of you agree, disagree, agree to disagree or whatever.:)

Sorry PJ, misunderstood..... [duhhh]

Interesting thread..... Now that you have tagged me on the reputation as an "ignorant response" I will add this. I run Florida regularly, about 30 trips in the last six months. due to your posts on how the cut down wheels are all over Florida, I have been looking for them. Have yet to see a set on the road. Guess they are real popular, huh. I have seen all kinds of 20 and 22 inch wheels on the road, but none of the "shaved down" truck wheels.

Ignorant indeed...

There's some dude here in the L.A. area of SoCal running 22.5" wheels machined to 22" wheels on a big burgundy Ford F-350 or Silverado HD with solid front axle conversion (my memory fails me right now). I saw it in one of the mags a few months back, Off-Road Magazine I think. I think it was on the cover. It looked bad-a$$!

Interesting thread..... Now that you have tagged me on the reputation as an "ignorant response" I will add this. I run Florida regularly, about 30 trips in the last six months. due to your posts on how the cut down wheels are all over Florida, I have been looking for them. Have yet to see a set on the road. Guess they are real popular, huh. I have seen all kinds of 20 and 22 inch wheels on the road, but none of the "shaved down" truck wheels.

Ignorant indeed...

Not to [deadhors] , but yes, that is exactly what that is (viz., ignorant). To say that 5 trips a month to a miniscule portion of Florida's roads gives you evidence of the popularity of a small portion of the aftermarket world (viz., dually wheel modification) is committing the egregious fallacy of confusing consequences for evidence. First you must determine how many people own 22.5" or 24.5" wheels on their duallies (i.e., most likely less than 1% of the total market); second you must then determine the percentage of that 1% or less that has shaved their wheels dow to either a 22" or 24" wheel (i.e., most likely less than 20% of the less than 1%). Thirdly you come to your final percentage which is less than or equal to .2%. Now assume that there are 100,000 duallies in Florida (a huge overestimation I am guess) and less than .2% are running shaved wheels. That means there are 200 trucks in Florida that run these wheels and you think that 5 trips a month is going to find most, if not all, of them?[nonono] [nonono]

"Popular" is a relative term (i.e., a certain number of x may be sufficient for x's being popular, whilst it may fall far short being sufficient for y's being popular). Are shaved 22.5" and 24.5" popular as compared to having chrome wheels? No. Are they popular in Florida as compared to elsewhere in the country? Yes. That information comes from one of the big distributors of said wheels.

Lamborghini Muciélagos are VERY "popular" in Florida (and California) as compared to the rest of the country but I doubt you actually see them regularly.

yea what you said...[duhhh]

i am thinkin about the shaved 22" with some nitto mud grapplers

i am thinkin about the shaved 22" with some nitto mud grapplers

I think that would look amazing! You should definitely do it! www.americanforcewheels.com (where I got my 22.5's) does the shaving and sells the tires. Give them a call; they were great! I had the wheels are tires 3 days after I ordered them.

Lamborghini Muciélagos are VERY "popular" in Florida (and California) as compared to the rest of the country but I doubt you actually see them regularly.

Speaking of Lamborghinis, a rich dude a couple offices down from me just had a yellow convertible delivered to his office by a shined-up OTR truck with a huge Larborghini insignia painted across the trailer. He's the same guy that has a red Viper, (2) SRT-10 Rams (one red, one black) and a new light blue Ferrari that was delivered the same way as the Lamborghini about a week before! Must be nice...

Speaking of Lamborghinis, a rich dude a couple offices down from me just had a yellow convertible delivered to his office by a shined-up OTR truck with a huge Larborghini insignia painted across the trailer. He's the same guy that has a red Viper, (2) SRT-10 Rams (one red, one black) and a new light blue Ferrari that was delivered the same way as the Lamborghini about a week before! Must be nice...

Was it a Gallardo or a Murci, do you know? I am having some artwork (Lamborghini and such) sone to my trailer too. You should take some pics!

how much do the 22'' cost

Was it a Gallardo or a Murci, do you know? I am having some artwork (Lamborghini and such) sone to my trailer too. You should take some pics!

To be honest I'm not sure. I haven't been following my exotics much lately. It sure was pretty though!

I would have taken pics but they were there early in the morning (dawn) and boned out pretty quick. Next time he has the car at the office I'll snap a couple pics.

Oh, and you know what? Someone there has a lifted white Megacab 2500 with matching white Road Armor bumpers and one of those Tire Gates, also matching white. It may be this guys also, especially if you look at his track record with Dodge vehicles.

how much do the 22'' cost


http://theduallystop.com/store/index.php?cPath=22_73&osCsid=d52d7d94131e9cc8dd0c12e3da811dd4


I have gotten all wheels from Stephanie@theduallystop and have gotten killer deals.. I called American Force first and they told me to contact theduallystop! These wheels are one of the best investments I have ever made! :cool:

Not to [deadhors] , but yes, that is exactly what that is (viz., ignorant). To say that 5 trips a month to a miniscule portion of Florida's roads gives you evidence of the popularity of a small portion of the aftermarket world (viz., dually wheel modification) is committing the egregious fallacy of confusing consequences for evidence. First you must determine how many people own 22.5" or 24.5" wheels on their duallies (i.e., most likely less than 1% of the total market); second you must then determine the percentage of that 1% or less that has shaved their wheels dow to either a 22" or 24" wheel (i.e., most likely less than 20% of the less than 1%). Thirdly you come to your final percentage which is less than or equal to .2%. Now assume that there are 100,000 duallies in Florida (a huge overestimation I am guess) and less than .2% are running shaved wheels. That means there are 200 trucks in Florida that run these wheels and you think that 5 trips a month is going to find most, if not all, of them?[nonono] [nonono]

"Popular" is a relative term (i.e., a certain number of x may be sufficient for x's being popular, whilst it may fall far short being sufficient for y's being popular). Are shaved 22.5" and 24.5" popular as compared to having chrome wheels? No. Are they popular in Florida as compared to elsewhere in the country? Yes. That information comes from one of the big distributors of said wheels.

Lamborghini Muciélagos are VERY "popular" in Florida (and California) as compared to the rest of the country but I doubt you actually see them regularly.

My my, we who are ignorant and uneducated on these complicated trucks stand in awe of the knowledge and expertise that you bring to us. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

My my, we who are ignorant and uneducated on these complicated trucks stand in awe of the knowledge and expertise that you bring to us. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Apology accepted.:cool: