Mike Holmen

I had my special order 09 truck was cancelled. I been told that I can't buy an 2010 truck yet, what gives. I might just buy a used truck and heck with the drama. Lots of good used truck buys out there. I saw a few website that show pics on the new truck, but how knows if its just 1500. I hope that the rebait applies new 2010 build as well.

polcat

Hey Mike,

I'll reply to your post (it's been awhile and I've actually received an email from TDR saying that I haven't posted in awhile, so I guess this reply serves two purposes). I've been wanting an 4x4 Cummins equipped 2500 since the megacabs came out in 06. As you can see, I own an 02 gasser that is in pretty much mint condition, low miles (76k), and is paid off. She sounds great with the dumped exhaust and runs well. I don't tow anything as I don't have any type of trailer. However, I do tow when we move (military). I do haul stuff from time to time, but again, not often enough. The problem is with the DPF equipped trucks and is one of the reasons why I haven't jumped on the boat and purchased a new diesel (again, I wouldn't be working the truck hard enough). Use as a daily driver for the most part would prove to be a waste of a $6000 option (or is it more now I think?). I think Dodge has done a great job with the new HDs and I am really considering getting one after our next move (I'll have a higher mortgage payment once we buy our next house, so we'll see if I really can afford a new truck, gotta pay off the wife's new Acadia first). I think if Dodge went with the urea system instead of the DPF solution, things would be much better for all. So, I'll probably be looking at a 2500 mega with, sorry to say it, Hemi. I don't mind removing the EGR and DPF, but I don't want to void my warranty and have to worry about Uncle Sam, which means I'd keep my truck stock with maybe an Edge chip (again thanks Dodge for the bootloader software now, grr). We'll, I've probably fulfilled my duty to reply and then some, but I can't wait to see and test drive the new HDs.

pind

I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but on the ISB cummins, the SCR system (urea) is used in conjunction with the DPF and EGR, not in place of it as most people think.

The SCR system injects urea directly into the exhaust stream, within the DPF itself.

So, we will still have EGR issues, and DPF issues, and gosh darn, we get SCR issues to add to the mix. Gotta love technology.

That said, SCR has been extensively tested in Europe, with good results. However, they didn't have north american engineering added to the mix, just to goof things up.

polcat

Pind,
Yes, I'm aware that the SCR will not replace the DPF, yeah, lets make it more complicated. If only we'd used the technology overseas over here. We have to make things harder than they need to be.

Mike Holmen

I had the dealer do a custom build similar to my 2009. The new 2010 truck is worth around $69kThe build cost for my 09 was $62k.

Wow, you that much money, it should have wings.

The engine/transmission so far in the 2010 is the same as 09. A new body style. Its one nice looking truck, but pricey. It even has the heated/cooled seat like the 1500. I've heard about urea is gonna be used on the diesel.

To bad that they cann't build a clean gaser as well. Some of the highway trucks already have the urea in use.

Jeff K

The scheduled date for the start of manufacturing of the 2010 HD trucks is Sept 28th from the Allpar site.

Mike Holmen

I'm suprised that there isn't too much info on the truck available? The dealer just had few pieces of info on the truck? I wonder when the aftermarket can get a decent lift kit for the truck?

Maddog411

That makes no sense, one of the big selling points of the 6.7 when it came out was that is was the only diesel out of the big 3 that was already 2010 compliant. If so why the hell would they need to change it and add this ****-in-my-engine technology to it???

polcat

I would think that the point is, we have an already complicated emissions system to what may be made even more complicated by adding urea-injection. What I think should've been done is stay away from the problem-causing DPF and go with the urea-injection from the get go. I would reather deal with an urea tank than the DPF. It probably would be better for those of us who want a diesel but don't do much towing. SCR should've been allowed in the US. For example, DaimlerChrysler AG has reported 7% increase in fuel economy with SCR over DPF & EGR equipped diesel trucks without and difference in torque. You gotta be kidding me, it's pretty obvious the route that should've been taken. Blame the EPA.

Article: http://fleetowner.com/equipment/news...esel_emission/

peobryant

Is there an article showing where the 6.7 Cummins is going to use urea? I haven't heard anything about it, and like said, they are already 2010 compliant without it, so I cannot see them adding it for no reason.

Gbuilders

I thought they were adding the Urea to the 6.7 in the cab and chassis only is what I've heard. Not sure why since the 6.7 is 2010 compliant.

Has anyone heard how much $$$ the new truck are going up from last year to the new body styles?

Mike Holmen

This is canadian dollars, my 09 order was $62k and the 10 was $69k. Same options, just more $$$

I bet mid year, the urea will be on the truck. If its not this year, it will be shortly. Progress This isn't about fuel efficency, just clean air. I wonder when EPA are gonna get the gaser to run cleaner?

Blake Clark

I about flipped out of my chair when I saw your first post! I thought that was in USD. Still a lot of money though.

I like the new trucks, they look promising, but...

Ive already spent a ton of money and had the learning curve on my 08, and will probably spend a lot more on it too. Dont want to go through all of this on another new truck.

Im keeping mine for a while.

Dr. Smasher

What does SCR and DPF stand for?

Blake Clark

SCR = Selective Catalytic Reduction

DPF = Diesel Particulate Filter