thrashingcows

I see in your post today that you finally removed those last couple floor plugs. And did you do all that sanding with the wee 2" sanding discs?

NJTman

Hey...

No horse beating around here..... Otherwise, Pam Anderson will be coming after ya .....


If she's still a non meat eating PETA representative... that is.



Why did you remove all the paint ? Coating it with a bedliner ? That would be a good way to help prevent that rot that doesn't happen in Kalifornication, eh ?

mknittle

I was being lazy with those plugs. they finally got in the way.

Doing the floor with the 2" discs would be like scrubbing the bathroom floor with a toothbrush. I used a 6" DA with 80 grit discs, the 2" scotch bright discs and for the really rippley parts I used paint remover.

mknittle

PETA, I went to their website once just to see the lunacy. The big thing there was taking pictures of their bumper stickers on anything that they could find to stick them on. and posting them.( I guess everybody needs a hobby)

There were a bunch of little rusty spots on the that I figured while I was there. I would fix. It really isn't that much extra work with the right tools.

thrashingcows

Whenever I'm in a conversation with someone and the topic of vegetarian, or Vegan comes up, I like to toss out my comment....taken from a TV commercial years ago. I like to say, "You know I'm a Meatetarian....it's a life style choice!"

If there is a grass muncher in the group I will usually get a dirty look....

mknittle

This morning I treated the floor with phosphoric acid metal prep and wiped it down with mineral sprits. All that is left to do is some hand work. mostly to scuff shiny spots. Should get it painted next week.

NJTman

FWIW,

Remove the mineral spirits.... it will cause problems with the paint adhesion. Yes, I've experienced this, and caused myself headaches by using it.


Clean the surfaces with denatured alcohol. Leaves no residue, and helps adhesion of the paint.


After using the phosphoric acid, you're not supposed to use any cleaner other than a damp sponge, than a nice clean dry rag. Trace amounts of the phosphoric acid remain and act as a future rust inhibitor under the primer.

At least that's what it says to do in the instruction sheets of my Ospho.

mknittle

I just use it as a pre wash. then go over it with acetone.
The problem I have had is the phosphoric acid will flash rust. I also have a couple parts on my jeep that the primer reacted with the acid and need to be re done.
I don't see any problems using a alkyd primer that uses the mineral sprits as a solvent.
If I were using a acrylic enamel or epoxy I would use denatured alcohol or lacquer thinner.


One problem was if I used water(hose) to rinse the floor I would have not only have had rust I would have had water coming out of nooks and crannies for a week. I had this ruin paint jobs too.

P.S I used to do a lot of painting, Cars, trucks, log skidders. what ever paid the bills.

mknittle

I just read the ingredients in Opso. It has rust inhibiters that the metal prep(phosphoric acid) that I use doesn't have hence the flash rust.

NJTman

Yeah, that's why I use it.

I don't use running water. I use a bucket with a dampened sponge, immediately drying after wiping clean.

Ospho, and the other PA's I've used are "self priming", and they require a wipe of water to remove the excess that's left behind. I get the sponge as water free as possible, (as if I was grout finishing a tile floor ) and wipe it and rinse until it's clean on the sponge, immediately drying with a dry terry cloth towel. It gets primed and painted over top.

So far, it seems to work well, but I'm sure you've got it covered..

mknittle

Sounds like a good method. It very well may be a better way than what I am doing though more expensive . There are so many products out now and arguments for and against them. I think the best method is to go with what works best for you.


I got the way I do it form a guy that builds street rods. Mostly 30s to 50s trucks. He didn't like anything that left rust inhibitors behind . His claim was He occaonally had problems with primer not sticking.
That said I have heard mostly good about Opso.

mknittle

yesterday I got some done on my twin stick conversion. I took the bend out of the right hand stick and cut the splined part off and welded it on facing the right side. I also cleaned up some old sloppy repairs.

thrashingcows

That's looks really nice.

mknittle

Thanks Brian, I am pretty happy with them so far.

NJTman

You're fabricating your own ? Cool... I would expect nothing less from you.

BTW, what is your projects name ? We had moonshine before this one... what's this one called ?

Cali Rust Free beauty ?


I emailed that company that makes the twin stick, previously mentioned here somewhere, but they never replied back.